I would say it is also too early to say whether he will ever be drafted, or play in the NBA. Who knows what the future holds for a rising Sr. in HS. His size is much easier to see how it translate from HS to the NBA then all the talented wing/tweener players, but still.
Jeremiah Tilmon (2017 C) commits to Illinois
I would say it is also too early to say whether he will ever be drafted, or play in the NBA. Who knows what the future holds for a rising Sr. in HS. His size is much easier to see how it translate from HS to the NBA then all the talented wing/tweener players, but still.
What qualifies as "a lot of playing time"? I would be surprised if he plays much more than 20+ with Finke, Black and (possibly) Kip in the rotation for "big-man" minutes.
He will get all the minutes he can handle. Our front court will likely be quite thin.
Joel Goodson
- respect my decision™
22 mpg is the absolute floor, when he's in foul trouble. Unless he has conditioning issues, I think he'll see at least 25 mpg and could see 30. You ride your horse.
Thomas Bryant only averaged 22.6 last year; Diamond Stone averaged 23.1; Caleb Swanigan averaged 25.7. Anywhere from 22-26 is probably the max. Most elite freshman big men play 20-25 mpg cause of numerous of reasons. The main two are - 1) foul trouble and 2) conditioning.
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With no shoulder injury, seeing where similar big men have been drafted I say he needed two years minimum. With the shoulder injury I think it may have set him back, depending how he recovers. Not ruling out an Anthony Davis like break out the next two years or the opposite, but my educated guess is still 2-3 years of college development.
That's probably a good guess. Hopefully we get another PF/C type in the '17 class to fill in for him when he needs a rest or gets in foul problem. If we don't, Finke will have to be the backup 5.
You don't see a lot of bigs taking close to 30 per game. That is a lot to ask for most bigs with years of seasoning let alone a freshman. Mid 20s sounds about right for his first year depending on fouls and conditioning
Captain Bubbles
- Fairfield, IL
That's quite a stretch IMO. I will say 7-8 ppg, 5-6 rpg, 2-3 apg, and 1 bpg.
Those are actually pretty good numbers for a freshman center. Could always go higher, but realistically, I can see him average these numbers. If he exceeds these numbers, I'll be happy.
Oh yes, he's not gonna be the next Anthony Davis or DeMarcus Cousins. The most legitimate comparison I've heard is he'll be like Mike Thorne. He'll have that presence inside the post and paint areas. We know Thorne is a nice 5, and that's where I can see Tilmon being like him. I understand the Bryant comparison, but I just don't see it with him.
Egwu average 29.7 and 29.8 his last two seasons. I suppose he could be considered an exceptional case, though.
I love some of things Finke showed last season and I can see a future that will allow for some diverse line-ups for Groce to play with. Especially if we can get more dominoes to fall thanks to the monumental decision by Tilmon.
Yeah an even stronger Finke could really be a nightmare for opposing bigs if he could back them down, too.
Btw, thank you for stopping in. We are all looking forward to seeing the improvements in each of the players. It certainly seems like your son has had no trouble finding the weight room.
Egwu was exceptionally conditioned which afforded him the physical ability to stay on the court. It is, however, kind of remarkable he was able to play that much with his regular foul trouble.
Mike Thorne? From what I've seen from Tilmon, those 2 are like the exact opposite. Thorne is huge and can't be moved off the blocked, but he isn't very mobile and he doesn't have a jumpshot.
Tilmon needs to add weight (as most freshmen do) but he has a decent jumper and fadeaway. He is more athletic so he will be a better rim protector and should be much better in the pick n roll.
LOL I should maybe change my name. I'm the proud Dad of a 10 year old AJ and not the AJ that is playing for the Illini. I made the name before we picked up Aaron Jordan and I've managed to confuse quite a few in the same way since then. Thanks for the laugh and sorry for the misleading name.
He was also an upperclassman. Expecting 30 mpg from a freshman center is a reach
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I was just responding to the comment that bigs generally don't average close to 30.
I expect Tilmon to play between 16 and 26 per game with an end-of-season average somewhere between 20 and 24.
Oh I know. I was basically sayings it's unfair to compare Tilmon and upperclassman egwu
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Illiniwek06
- N of I-80
When he suits up
in Orange and Blue, I am going to have a moment....
in Orange and Blue, I am going to have a moment....
Meyers Leonard averaged 31.8 his sophomore year.
Good stuff Mad, thanks for posting. :thumb:
