Because while you're wasting time with a dead man walking as head coach, some other team might snap up the guy you want.
Also makes Groce available to other programs immediately.
Because while you're wasting time with a dead man walking as head coach, some other team might snap up the guy you want.
Also makes Groce available to other programs immediately.
He would still be available immediately.
So Groce asked Whitman if he could stay around to finish out the season with his players if they make the NIT, and was told no. What is the downside to letting he finish the year? Seems cold to me, so there must be a different angle I am not seeing.
So Groce asked Whitman if he could stay around to finish out the season with his players if they make the NIT, and was told no. What is the downside to letting he finish the year? Seems cold to me, so there must be a different angle I am not seeing.
I've been waiting for something important to happen to make my 1,000th post. As the daughter-in-law of an Illini whose banner has been raised to the top of the Assembly Hall, the firing of John Groce and hiring of a new leader for the Illini program closest to my heart is of the utmost significance to my family. I, too, want to thank Coach Groce for his commitment, integrity, and class. I had high hopes after that Miami game that the Illini were on their way back. I'm really sorry it didn't work out, and I wish him nothing but the best. I am again impressed with Josh Whitman, his confident leadership, and his sensitivity towards his friend. I trust him to hire a new high character coach to get the best out of these players and recruits and bring the program back to the prominence it has historically earned. I hope the seniors, especially Tracy and Malcolm, can fight even harder and go out with a bang to end their careers at Illinois on a positive note, which they deserve for their years of hard work and perseverance. I look forward to the future. #WeWillWin
Has Kedric's article been discussed yet? With all the JG praise today, he is not sugar coating it. Since the Kenny Battle article, I'm guessing Kedric has not been part of the circle of trust.
http://www.qconline.com/sports/college_sports/groce-experiment-over-for-illini/article_4a1297a9-92bd-5b50-bf61-7ca303691669.html
1. Love that Whitman is not using a search firm. To me the message is "I know my shortlist and don't need a search firm to comb the earth for hidden gems."
For as long as Kedric has been writing, you'd think he be even a tad bit serviceable at it, but that, uh, seems not to be the case.
JW said he's not going to announce anything tomorrow (Monday, 3/13) because the NCAA tournament is on, so basically if he has a coach already "hired," there's a good chance he's coaching a tournament team, rather than someone who is doing something else right now. He's not going to distract from that coach's duties while he's still obligated to do his best for his employer, fans and players. You wouldn't want an AD who would, and wouldn't want a coach that would accept on those terms.
But if he doesn't have a coach already committed, he's not going to go knocking on a door that no one's behind because said occupant is off at the NCAA tournament: "Hey, I'm dancin' heah."
I'm talking about it from groce's perspective. He is available to interested schools as of yesterday as opposed to late next week at the earliest. This is especially important if he's going to take over a midmajor that is not playing in the postseason or going back to being an assistant at a high major not playing in the postseason.
North Texas is open. Conference USA. Not a bad place to fall.
Stranger things have happened but it would surprise me if JG got a head coaching job at any D1 school.
Why?
The mid-major conferences are loaded with ex-P5 guys with worse resumes than Groce.
A great person, great face of the program and solid recruiter who just bit off a bit more than he could chew coaching-wise at the major conference level is something many mid-major schools are likely to be interested in.
Anyone else have this premonition.
Anyone else have this premonition.
Headline: "Groce Takes Missouri Head Coaching Position. Tilman, Pickett and Frazier Follow. Illinois Continues Search"
Groce comments: "After listening to Josh Whitman's explain that my firing was just business, I realized that being a head coach isn't about character, it is about winning. That being the case, and my loyalties now being to my new employer, I was compelled to offer those recruits a place at Missouri."
Josh Whitman comments: "But he was my friend."
Why?
The mid-major conferences are loaded with ex-P5 guys with worse resumes than Groce.
A great person, great face of the program and solid recruiter who just bit off a bit more than he could chew coaching-wise at the major conference level is something many mid-major schools are likely to be interested in.
A lot of fans on here were upset that Groce did not pursue LeVert when he came to Illinois - we could have used him (just another instance of Groce doing what he thought was the right thing to his own detriment).
Anyone else have this premonition.
Headline: "Groce Takes Missouri Head Coaching Position. Tilman, Pickett and Frazier Follow. Illinois Continues Search"
Groce comments: "After listening to Josh Whitman's explain that my firing was just business, I realized that being a head coach isn't about character, it is about winning. That being the case, and my loyalties now being to my new employer, I was compelled to offer those recruits a place at Missouri."
Josh Whitman comments: "But he was my friend."
If Groce did this, he would not be the man that many of the posters on this board have acknowledged that he is. And if he IS this kind of man and did a good job of fooling everyone, the Illini would again certainly have made the right choice yesterday.
I never "just" want to win. I want to win WITH character. If the Illini can't do that in today's environment, then we're better off in mediocre purgatory. Reference Baylor football and various hoops programs that will remain unidentified.