Kansas 72, North Carolina 69

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With the dark cloud forming overhead, there was additional urgency for Kansas to win another title on Self’s watch.
That mission was accomplished, but now what?
Writing for CBSSports.com, Matt Norlander had this take:
The win obviously comes with a looming situation for Self and Kansas. That uncertain future has the potential to influence what Self can do or wants to do. Kansas is awaiting punishment from the NCAA (via the IARP), and sources have told CBS Sports that it's likely that the damage will be severe — and coming soon. A ruling on Kansas happening in the near-future is probable.



This of course dates back to the FBI scandal, as the NCAA has pinned five Level I violations on Self and his program. He's guaranteed a suspension, and its length could be anywhere from low double digits in games to sitting out an entire season. He'll fight it all, and the university will certainly try to sue on his behalf, but because this is the IARP, there is no appeal process.
There's a chance Kansas could also be banned from the 2023 postseason.

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Lots of other opinions , but the one I posted above is the most info I have read and it paints an ominous portrait of what Mr. Self could be looking at....
Glad there is no appeal process with the IARP. Maybe it'll come to an end in our lifetime
 
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With the dark cloud forming overhead, there was additional urgency for Kansas to win another title on Self’s watch.
That mission was accomplished, but now what?
Writing for CBSSports.com, Matt Norlander had this take:
The win obviously comes with a looming situation for Self and Kansas. That uncertain future has the potential to influence what Self can do or wants to do. Kansas is awaiting punishment from the NCAA (via the IARP), and sources have told CBS Sports that it's likely that the damage will be severe — and coming soon. A ruling on Kansas happening in the near-future is probable.



This of course dates back to the FBI scandal, as the NCAA has pinned five Level I violations on Self and his program. He's guaranteed a suspension, and its length could be anywhere from low double digits in games to sitting out an entire season. He'll fight it all, and the university will certainly try to sue on his behalf, but because this is the IARP, there is no appeal process.
There's a chance Kansas could also be banned from the 2023 postseason.

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Lots of other opinions , but the one I posted above is the most info I have read and it paints an ominous portrait of what Mr. Self could be looking at....
The problem is even a 1 year postseason suspension and self being suspended for a year doesn’t actually set the program back.

They’ll be down for 1-2 years and then between transfers and top 25 freshman will be back to a top 10 team.
 
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The problem is even a 1 year postseason suspension and self being suspended for a year doesn’t actually set the program back.

They’ll be down for 1-2 years and then between transfers and top 25 freshman will be back to a top 10 team.
Having the NCAA investigate Kansas and UNC is like having GM investigate Cadillac and Chevrolet. They have no incentive to find noncompliance, and huge financial and credibility incentives not to. The changes to eligibility rules are just a means to further enrich the bluebloods, allowing them multiple chances to snag good players they might have initially passed on. Like any organization intended to create revenue, the NCAA will do anything they can to support their top earners. Luckily, while Illinois is not at the top, we're also not at the bottom. Plucky little St. Peters is going to have to find a jersey for the guy who holds their clipboards. They'll be stripped clean.
 
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The problem is even a 1 year postseason suspension and self being suspended for a year doesn’t actually set the program back.

They’ll be down for 1-2 years and then between transfers and top 25 freshman will be back to a top 10 team.
I guess it depends on how bad it is. If it is bad enough that they have to get rid of Self (alas Wade/LSU), it could potentially set back the program more. I do not expect just the punishment by itself will damage KU more than a few down years though.
 
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I guess it depends on how bad it is. If it is bad enough that they have to get rid of Self (alas Wade/LSU), it could potentially set back the program more. I do not expect just the punishment by itself will damage KU more than a few down years though.
I look at IU as the “worst case” but that included a ton of loss scholarships and fired coach as you noted similar with Wade

took crean 4 years to get to the NCAA tourney (s16) and year 5 they were ranked #1 and “back”.

I’d assume with the transfer market, being a true blue blood, and presumably keeping self, it’d be quicker than that.
 
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Tevo

Wilmette, IL
I guess it depends on how bad it is. If it is bad enough that they have to get rid of Self (alas Wade/LSU), it could potentially set back the program more. I do not expect just the punishment by itself will damage KU more than a few down years though.
I was thinking about this. If Self is given a 1-year suspension, I assume KU would just let him sit home for a year (presumably not on payroll, depending on the terms of the suspension, but even if he WAS still getting paid his millions), and then bring him back for the following year. Why sacrifice the next ten years to unknown results when you can just be patient and then have 9 years of pretty reliable, conference-championship and occasional-final-four quality teams? In the off year he can relax and play golf, or go get paid as an Analyst.

Recruits might not even drop off that much, knowing he'll be back for Year 2 onward. It'll be a blip in the KU history books, not a change of direction.

Which is crap.