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A tie would be pretty good.Maybe most athletic. Curbelo’s handle, passing, & vision are extremely rare. To me, he is insanely talented. If Hutch is truly more talented, then we are in for a real treat.
A tie would be pretty good.Maybe most athletic. Curbelo’s handle, passing, & vision are extremely rare. To me, he is insanely talented. If Hutch is truly more talented, then we are in for a real treat.
So, if David Ortiz is "Big Papi" does that make Curbello "Little Papi"?The OP is talking about Papi. I believe you're talking about Jake. Apologies if I'm wrong.
Adam Miller too? That should be interesting!WCIA is reporting that the whole team is on the way back to town to be honored at the halftime of the spring football game which will also be on BTN. They say the stadium will be open to 25% capacity. Not sure what the capacity is any more but 25% has to be over 12,000 so it could be a pretty nice way to honor the team back to campus. That also means you can't read too much into any of them showing up in CU.
Smith and Brown are gone. No word yet on Livers or Brooks.Anyone keeping up with MI and WI returnees?
On paper WI has empty cupboard if their seniors leave; yet, if they all return they’ll have the same problem next year.
MI has the #1 class but also could have Mike Smith, Livers, Brooks, and Chaundee Brown all return. Not to mention Dickinson, and a few guys ranked high enough out of HS to expect some playing time. Will be interesting to see where all the pieces fall.
While that is true, this roster played under the old defensive scheme. BU changed his defense two years ago, plugging up a lot of holes on that part of the equation.Underwood went 14-18 with this roster below, and I don't think next year's team will have more talent. Probably about the same. Leron Black and freshman Trent Frazier were pretty good players, but it takes a roster of good players to be a good. Not just 1 guy.
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More athletic Larry Bird?Maybe most athletic. Curbelo’s handle, passing, & vision are extremely rare. To me, he is insanely talented. If Hutch is truly more talented, then we are in for a real treat.
MI has the #1 class but also could have Mike Smith, Livers, Brooks, and Chaundee Brown all return. Not to mention Dickinson, and a few guys ranked high enough out of HS to expect some playing time. Will be interesting to see where all the pieces fall.
I agree finish was probably not significant in getting us here. But 2005 was a different year though, Head & Powell used up eligibility, Deron similar to Ayo as a no brained to go to NBA. This year Trent/Damonte have an opportunity to return that isn’t normal.after the FF in 2005 we would have lost the entire starting lineup if Dee hadn't broken his foot, except for Auggie.
Agree with this but Hutch, Goode, and Melendez all have a lot of offensive talent. If any of them have defensive talent to go with their length it will be interesting. The team will have enough offense to be competitive regardless of Miller and Kofi. The question will always be about defense and especially without Kofi.If Trent and Miller are here, you start both along with Curbelo.
This. Plenty of insta and behind the scenes footage of him being a knockdown jump shooter. It just didn't translate in-game. But I'm confident it will.He is a GREAT shooter from 3 in practice. We’re talking like can’t-miss from 3. For some reason it didn’t translate to games this year, but I think the light will turn on for him at some point. When it does-yikes. The B1G and the rest of the country will not have an answer.
Also seems like Trent is returning as wellWith the addition of Podz, we could be sneaky good next year.
Still waiting on Kofi, AM, TF, and DMW. Those four can really swing our collective ceiling and floor for next year.
My guess is that none of these four return. Hope I am wrong. Really weird situation. We could be anything from top 10 preseason to Big 10 bottom fishers.With the addition of Podz, we could be sneaky good next year.
Still waiting on Kofi, AM, TF, and DMW. Those four can really swing our collective ceiling and floor for next year.
WRT Trent, that would be surprising to his dad and brother.My guess is that none of these four return. Hope I am wrong. Really weird situation. We could be anything from top 10 preseason to Big 10 bottom fishers.
Also seems like Trent is returning as well
Umm. Looks like you are forgetting Payne?My thoughts on starting 5 assuming super seniors return and AM doesn't return:
PG: Curbelo, Trent F, Goode?
SG: Trent F, Podz, Hutch, Goode
SF: Hutch, Melendez, Podz
F: Jacob G, DMW, Coleman, BBV
C: Kofi, Hamlin, BBV, Coleman, Lieb
Whatever this looks like, there is a huge glut at the 2,3,4 spot. I see a struggle to get Coleman more consistent time if DMW comes back. We are weak at the lead guard spot beyond Curbelo. I don't know much about Goode's or Podz or anyone else's dribbles and ability to run the offense, so if someone else does, please enlighten me. But Trent coming back is probably as key as Kofi coming back IMO.
Riiighhhtt...damn...makes it even harder.Umm. Looks like you are forgetting Payne?
Riiighhhtt...damn...makes it even harder.
PG: Curbelo, Trent F, Goode?
SG: Trent F, Podz, Hutch, Goode
SF: Hutch, Payne, Melendez, Podz
F: Jacob G, DMW, Coleman, Payne, BBV
C: Kofi, Hamlin, BBV, Coleman, Lieb
Goode is not going to be a backup point (unless we're up 30, lol). No telling about the freshmen. I think Verdunk (lol) will see minutes at the 4. 1 of the freshmen may redshirt. Gonna be interesting and I don't think we're done fiddling about with the roster yet.My thoughts on starting 5 assuming super seniors return and AM doesn't return:
PG: Curbelo, Trent F, Goode?
SG: Trent F, Podz, Hutch, Goode
SF: Hutch, Melendez, Podz
F: Jacob G, DMW, Coleman, BBV
C: Kofi, Hamlin, BBV, Coleman, Lieb
Whatever this looks like, there is a huge glut at the 2,3,4 spot. I see a struggle to get Coleman more consistent time if DMW comes back. We are weak at the lead guard spot beyond Curbelo. I don't know much about Goode's or Podz or anyone else's dribbles and ability to run the offense, so if someone else does, please enlighten me. But Trent coming back is probably as key as Kofi coming back IMO.
As you said, roster still in flux, but glaring hole at the 1 from a depth standpoint. Just seems like a huge glut at the 2 and 3 spots. I know he might choose to go with a smaller line-up like Baylor played with 4 guards on the floor which could spread things out a little bit more.Goode is not going to be a backup point (unless we're up 30, lol). No telling about the freshmen. I think Verdunk (lol) will see minutes at the 4. 1 of the freshmen may redshirt. Gonna be interesting and I don't think we're done fiddling about with the roster yet.