Looking ahead to 2021-2022

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#177      

Man, that was interesting to watch.

I love Kofi, really do, he is one of the rarest physical specimans I've ever seen. He is just huge. But...and I say this knowing that he is basically doing guard drills there, you can see why he is going to be a late second rounder to undrafted. He just hasn't been playing long enough. The perimeter skills are non existent. The ball handling. The shot isn't there, the lateral quickness to switch on guards. He just isnt fluid enough.

He is what Jahlil Okafor has become. A huge man who can score in the post and nothing else.

Simply for draft stock, if he comes back he is going to be fed constantly from a great player is Curbelo. He could easily be 20 and 10 next year, maybe more.

A Junior Cockburn, coming off of a 20 and 10 year with a least a little bit of improvement in his passing, his free throw ability and flexibility, probably goes late 1st to early 2nd next year. It is worth it for him to come back to Illinois for one more year.

Sadly, I don't know if he or the folks around him feel the same.
 
#178      
Man, that was interesting to watch.

I love Kofi, really do, he is one of the rarest physical specimans I've ever seen. He is just huge. But...and I say this knowing that he is basically doing guard drills there, you can see why he is going to be a late second rounder to undrafted. He just hasn't been playing long enough. The perimeter skills are non existent. The ball handling. The shot isn't there, the lateral quickness to switch on guards. He just isnt fluid enough.

He is what Jahlil Okafor has become. A huge man who can score in the post and nothing else.

Simply for draft stock, if he comes back he is going to be fed constantly from a great player is Curbelo. He could easily be 20 and 10 next year, maybe more.

A Junior Cockburn, coming off of a 20 and 10 year with a least a little bit of improvement in his passing, his free throw ability and flexibility, probably goes late 1st to early 2nd next year. It is worth it for him to come back to Illinois for one more year.

Sadly, I don't know if he or the folks around him feel the same.
Pardon to differ...I saw a lot of good things there. I want him back too.
 
#180      
Man, that was interesting to watch.

I love Kofi, really do, he is one of the rarest physical specimans I've ever seen. He is just huge. But...and I say this knowing that he is basically doing guard drills there, you can see why he is going to be a late second rounder to undrafted. He just hasn't been playing long enough. The perimeter skills are non existent. The ball handling. The shot isn't there, the lateral quickness to switch on guards. He just isnt fluid enough.

He is what Jahlil Okafor has become. A huge man who can score in the post and nothing else.

Simply for draft stock, if he comes back he is going to be fed constantly from a great player is Curbelo. He could easily be 20 and 10 next year, maybe more.

A Junior Cockburn, coming off of a 20 and 10 year with a least a little bit of improvement in his passing, his free throw ability and flexibility, probably goes late 1st to early 2nd next year. It is worth it for him to come back to Illinois for one more year.

Sadly, I don't know if he or the folks around him feel the same.
The crazy part is, Okafor was far superior coming into college. His post offensive game was very advanced, whereas Kofi just dominates due to sheer size.

EDIT: I didn't actually watch Okafor a ton while he was in college; I am basing that off of memory, stats, scouting reports, and what I remember hearing while he was playing.
 
#182      
Man, that was interesting to watch.

I love Kofi, really do, he is one of the rarest physical specimans I've ever seen. He is just huge. But...and I say this knowing that he is basically doing guard drills there, you can see why he is going to be a late second rounder to undrafted. He just hasn't been playing long enough. The perimeter skills are non existent. The ball handling. The shot isn't there, the lateral quickness to switch on guards. He just isnt fluid enough.

He is what Jahlil Okafor has become. A huge man who can score in the post and nothing else.

Simply for draft stock, if he comes back he is going to be fed constantly from a great player is Curbelo. He could easily be 20 and 10 next year, maybe more.

A Junior Cockburn, coming off of a 20 and 10 year with a least a little bit of improvement in his passing, his free throw ability and flexibility, probably goes late 1st to early 2nd next year. It is worth it for him to come back to Illinois for one more year.

Sadly, I don't know if he or the folks around him feel the same.
Gotta agree. Timme was clearly much better in those drills and he is projected as a second rounder in 2022. This just isn't Kofi's game nor do I really think he needs it in his game. To be in the NBA he needs to be able to move quicker laterally to defend the high ball screen. Defense is really where he needs to improve to make it in the NBA. Offensively he is already pretty good in the pick and roll. Better passing would be a plus to help him but I don't think he needs to really develop an outside shot. Better FT shooting wouldn't hurt obviously.
 
#183      

blackdog

Champaign
Gotta agree. Timme was clearly much better in those drills and he is projected as a second rounder in 2022. This just isn't Kofi's game nor do I really think he needs it in his game. To be in the NBA he needs to be able to move quicker laterally to defend the high ball screen. Defense is really where he needs to improve to make it in the NBA. Offensively he is already pretty good in the pick and roll. Better passing would be a plus to help him but I don't think he needs to really develop an outside shot. Better FT shooting wouldn't hurt obviously.

I do think drills like this will be good for Kofi overall. It may not seem like it but most NBA bigs now are better ballhandlers than we see or think of compared to how it used to be. They don't use them often but it let's them take advantage of some situation that they might otherwise. Its not very effective to have a big man who gets the ball up top and all the can do is stand there and look for a guard to pass to.

I saw a clip the other day of Javale McGee getting a rebound on defense and going coast to coast for a layup because nobody really stopped the ball. Just think about the couple situations this year where Giorgi pushed the ball in transition. It pretty much always ended with us getting a bucket on the break. Thats what having at least adequate ball handling can do for a big.
 
#184      

skyIdub

Winged Warrior
I don't think that there is any question that Kofi will have to develop more of these skills to be an everyday NBA guy.

The question is can he develop them here as a B1G 5, banging old school in BU's offense....or is he better served taking a chance on developing them in the league as a low 2nd rounder, UFA, or Euro ball.

My personal opinion, another year here with more running, passing (hopefully), and maybe some wrinkles in the spread offense, and working another off season as he is now, positions him for a guaranteed contract in 2022 and a solid foundation to build the skillset he needs for a stable career in the NBA.
See: Ayo Dos

He's still just 5-6 years into the game...which is crazy if you think about it.

Imagine picking up a sport...and then 5 years later trying to qualify at the highest level in the world.

All the crazy hot takes that he "is who he is" and can't develop any more are just mind numbingly stupid.
 
#185      
I don't think that there is any question that Kofi will have to develop more of these skills to be an everyday NBA guy.

The question is can he develop them here as a B1G 5, banging old school in BU's offense....or is he better served taking a chance on developing them in the league as a low 2nd rounder, UFA, or Euro ball.

My personal opinion, another year here with more running, passing (hopefully), and maybe some wrinkles in the spread offense, and working another off season as he is now, positions him for a guaranteed contract in 2022 and a solid foundation to build the skillset he needs for a stable career in the NBA.
See: Ayo Dos

He's still just 5-6 years into the game...which is crazy if you think about it.

Imagine picking up a sport...and then 5 years later trying to qualify at the highest level in the world.

All the crazy hot takes that he "is who he is" and can't develop any more are just mind numbingly stupid.
I think age is a big thing for him. He's going to be 22 in September. If he wants to guarantee himself the longest career possible, I don't think he can sacrifice a year of his physical prime *not* playing in the pros. Hopefully he can get a two-way contract with a good org, develop the shot, and work on his body to get more agile.
 
#186      
I think age is a big thing for him. He's going to be 22 in September. If he wants to guarantee himself the longest career possible, I don't think he can sacrifice a year of his physical prime *not* playing in the pros. Hopefully he can get a two-way contract with a good org, develop the shot, and work on his body to get more agile.
2 way contract in NBA not going to happen for Kofi with his limited skill set. If Ayo projected around 24-28 there is no way Kofi lands in top 60 unless something drastic changes. Timme looked way better & he probably wont get drafted.
 
#187      
2 way contract in NBA not going to happen for Kofi with his limited skill set. If Ayo projected around 24-28 there is no way Kofi lands in top 60 unless something drastic changes. Timme looked way better & he probably wont get drafted.
Ayo also wasn't a projected draft pick after his second season. Timme has nowhere near the physical traits Kofi does so of course he might look better in a ball handling drill. The continued development of his rim protection, ball handling, and passing this next season might be enough for a NBA scout to grab him in the 2nd and from there anything can happen. He needs to take notes from Ayo, everything scouts said he needed to improve on he did, that's what scouts want to see.
 
#188      
Ayo also wasn't a projected draft pick after his second season. Timme has nowhere near the physical traits Kofi does so of course he might look better in a ball handling drill. The continued development of his rim protection, ball handling, and passing this next season might be enough for a NBA scout to grab him in the 2nd and from there anything can happen. He needs to take notes from Ayo, everything scouts said he needed to improve on he did, that's what scouts want to see.
Timme looked pretty good in the Big Dance too, not just ball handling drills.
 
#189      
2 way contract in NBA not going to happen for Kofi with his limited skill set. If Ayo projected around 24-28 there is no way Kofi lands in top 60 unless something drastic changes. Timme looked way better & he probably wont get drafted.
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