Louisville Self-Imposes 2016 Postseason Ban

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HoopCity

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Smacko

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This should just be the beginning. Doubt they can get away with just giving up one year of post-season play considering the magnitude of their violations.
 
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illinoisfan11 said:
http://espn.go.com/mens-college-bas...ll-self-imposes-postseason-ban-2015-16-season

I feel bad for QS (say what you will about him, but he's a lot of fun to watch play), but I feel worse for the 2 fifth-year transfer guys who can't play in the postseason now. Wonder how much heat this puts on Pitino.
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I don't feel bad for Snider. He reneged on Illinois on signing day. I don't care if he can play or not. He and his dad knew what was going on at Louisville. Heck, his dad participated. Karma.
 
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HoopCity

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I think this is a very light penalty considering the allegations. It will be interesting to see what the NCAA does on top of this or does "Blue Blood" status exempt them?

This is what just recently happened at Pacific for academic misconduct allegations.


Pacific called the investigation cooperative with the NCAA. The ban includes the West Coast Conference tournament in addition to any other invitational tourneys. The school will also reduce the number of available basketball scholarships by six for the next three years, and also “limit recruiting efforts in other areas.”

Current players will remain on scholarship. Athletic director Ted Leland said in a statement that Level I violations, the most serious type of NCAA rule infractions, had occurred. The university has determined that men’s basketball staffers provided impermissible academic assistance to student-athletes. On Dec.11, head coach Ron Verlin and assistant coach Dwight Young were suspended.
 
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HoopCity said:
Pacific called the investigation cooperative with the NCAA. The ban includes the West Coast Conference tournament in addition to any other invitational tourneys. The school will also reduce the number of available basketball scholarships by six for the next three years, and also “limit recruiting efforts in other areas.”

Current players will remain on scholarship. Athletic director Ted Leland said in a statement that Level I violations, the most serious type of NCAA rule infractions, had occurred. The university has determined that men’s basketball staffers provided impermissible academic assistance to student-athletes. On Dec.11, head coach Ron Verlin and assistant coach Dwight Young were suspended.
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No way in hell will this happen to Louisville.

There is no justice in the NCAA.
 
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TCTORNADO

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First they have Karen Sypher, and secondly, Katina Powell. Will they discover next that some of their fan base is married to their first cousins.:)
 
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HoopCity said:
I think this is a very light penalty considering the allegations. It will be interesting to see what the NCAA does on top of this or does "Blue Blood" status exempt them?
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This...they are negotiating & hoping they get away with only this, but don't expect it to end here.
 
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HoopCity

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Greensboro said:
Damage control. Don't think it will be nearly enough.
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I think it will be much more including coaches on long probation and scholarships taken away. Maybe stripping the national title in 2013 and regional finals in three of the past four years.
 
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Adnarel said:
No way in hell will this happen to Louisville.

There is no justice in the NCAA.
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No kidding!!! I wonder how Pacific feels about the North Carolina Academic Fraud. It's not what's done, but who does it.
The NCAA is a joke.
 
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HoopCity said:
I think it will be much more including coaches on long probation and scholarships taken away. Maybe stripping the national title in 2013 and regional finals in three of the past four years.
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lots of people think that. Plus you announce this on the Friday of Super Bowl weekend. Definitely a lot more than they thought and attempting to do major damage control.

C.L. Brown ESPN Staff Writer

One thing I'm not sure I heard from the presser is how much did Louisville consider other forms of punishment. future scholarship limits? reducing recruiting visits/coaches on the road? Imposing postseason ban this year hints that confirmed info from investigation might be worse than originally thought.
 
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Such a joke. Sit out this year. You've announced well past the semester break so it does no one any good to transfer out now. You don't sit out next year, so it wont negatively impact the recruits coming in. The only guys it screws over are seniors and the 2 grand transfers. And as for those guys, you no good to Pitino in a few weeks, so hes over it.


I also don't know how much truth to this there is, but I was told Pitino's contract has writing that stipulates unless he is caught red handed as the person in charge of something, he is free of all blame for the university and cant be fired for cause. Gives him free reign to tell an assistant coach, "Do what ever you need to do to get a recruit, just don't tell me about it"
 
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Johnny Lawrence said:
So you want the head coach to suffer for something a grad assistant did?
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Haha! Can't believe someone typed this.

Petino should suffer either way.

1. He knew about the instances and should have stopped them and reported them.
2. He didn't know about the situation in which I would still place blame on him. No way something like this should go unnoticed by a head coach. If you have that little knowledge of what goes on during recruiting visits then you deserve the ramifications of what happens on those visits. If he was that concerned with following the rules, he would have kept a closer eye on the activities of his recruits AND THEIR PARENTS on visits.
 
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frozenrope9190

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This is the first time I've seen a program voluntarily impose a postseason ban in the middle of season in which they're successful. Many teams will game the system where they'll be banned as a bubble team or a team that has little chance of success. Louisville is 18-4 and eliminating themselves from a tourney run.

This says to me whatever they're digging up is really bad, and will probably not be enough.
 
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frozenrope9190 said:
This is the first time I've seen a program voluntarily impose a postseason ban in the middle of season in which they're successful. Many teams will game the system where they'll be banned as a bubble team or a team that has little chance of success. Louisville is 18-4 and eliminating themselves from a tourney run.

This says to me whatever they're digging up is really bad, and will probably not be enough.
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My thoughts exactly.

As for the "what a graduate assistant did"....be realistic. NOTHING happens with that program that Pitino isn't aware of. He may not have told his assistants to do it, but he sure as hell knew it was happening and didn't tell them NOT to do it. That's just as bad.
 
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Johnny Lawrence

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Paul Kleevage said:
Haha! Can't believe someone typed this.

Petino should suffer either way.

1. He knew about the instances and should have stopped them and reported them.
2. He didn't know about the situation in which I would still place blame on him. No way something like this should go unnoticed by a head coach. If you have that little knowledge of what goes on during recruiting visits then you deserve the ramifications of what happens on those visits. If he was that concerned with following the rules, he would have kept a closer eye on the activities of his recruits AND THEIR PARENTS on visits.
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I knew this was going to get a response but I'm just tired of everyone looking for other's more successful to "suffer."

I think it's very possible to that he didn't know about it. Should he have? Probably. Should our parents have known or have been held accountable for our indiscretions at the ages of 18-25?
 
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frozenrope9190

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Johnny Lawrence said:
I knew this was going to get a response but I'm just tired of everyone looking for other's more successful to "suffer."

I think it's very possible to that he didn't know about it. Should he have? Probably. Should our parents have known or have been held accountable for our indiscretions at the ages of 18-25?
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Yeah, but parents don't get paid 5 million a year to shepherd us to success. If they did, there would be a lot more stay at home parents who would KNOW what the heck we were doing.
 
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Johnny Lawrence said:
I knew this was going to get a response but I'm just tired of everyone looking for other's more successful to "suffer."

I think it's very possible to that he didn't know about it. Should he have? Probably. Should our parents have known or have been held accountable for our indiscretions at the ages of 18-25?
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Can't say I don't get your argument. However, IF my parents had provided the alcohol when I was caught drinking underage, then yes...they should have, and would have, been held accountable. The coaching staff were the masterminds behind this. This isn't an example of kids acting alone.
 
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Ransom Stoddard

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Johnny Lawrence said:
I knew this was going to get a response but I'm just tired of everyone looking for other's more successful to "suffer."

I think it's very possible to that he didn't know about it. Should he have? Probably. Should our parents have known or have been held accountable for our indiscretions at the ages of 18-25?
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You're an adult at age 18. You're legally liable for yourself, your parents aren't any longer.

The NCAA does (and rightly should) look at it differently, just as corporate america looks at it differently. Enron was cooking the books, everyone got burned, even if they didn't know about it. Ville was playing shenanigans, and he HC and AD are the ones in charge of making sure the program is as clean as possible.