Lovie Smith Named Illinois Football Coach

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dansaint

Middletown, IL
David Kaplan chimes in: Just what the Illini needs....a condescending, low charisma head coach. #Badhire #Dontdoit
 
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CUWPC

Geneva, IL
Lovie 83-95 college coach. 10 years NFL head coaching experience. 1 Super Bowl apperance. Where do I sign-up? Can you imagine him in the homes of kids who grew up following the Bears. They'd be in awe and he can talk about being in the NFL and what it takes to make it.
 
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Lovie would be an awful hire never got his offense right in 12 years in the NFL, has made the playoffs 3 times in 10 years with the Bears and hasn't coached in college in 21 years. Zero personality or charisma to attract high school kids. Hates media. We need a young college coach.
 
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hooraybeer

Pittsburgh, PA
i find it hard to believe that anyone could possibly say that Lovie wouldn't be a HR hire for the program in it's current state
 
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Seriously, why are you all so keen on Lovie Smith? His defensive scheme is passe, we have no idea if he can recruit and he is condescending in his dealings with the media. Not to mention that he has no clue how to hire an offensive coordinator.
It's been about 20 years since Lovie was a college coach. Lot of changes.

Because no one should be keen on coming here. No one.

I think he'd be good at recruiting, ignoring his on field, his players always really liked playing for him which you'd imagine would have some kind of translation to recruiting.
 
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CUWPC

Geneva, IL
Maybe he can get Urlacher to come in as a LB coach. I bet he could recruit a bit.
 
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Lucy727

Des Plaines, Il
Lovie Smith as the Illinois head coach is making me long for Les Frazier. :eek:

I hope there is a third unknown coach who will actually be hired.
 
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Great job by Whitman and staff to direct attention towards Lovie. Great free publicity for the program.
The real candidate is Frazier.
As I said before Lovie ain't hungry but Frazier is.
Good deflection job and people biting on it is even bigger.
 
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quhawks12

Hamilton County, IN
1st time I think I've ever agreed with Bernstein. But, I'm happy with anyone not named Cubit.
 
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Lovie would be an awful hire never got his offense right in 12 years in the NFL, has made the playoffs 3 times in 10 years with the Bears and hasn't coached in college in 21 years. Zero personality or charisma to attract high school kids. Hates media. We need a young college coach.

How many times have the Bears been to the playoffs since he left?

I wasn't a huge fan of his, but the way some of you are talking you'd think any sane person would want to come coach this team lol. We would rate out at about a D in the desirability category at this point.
 
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Seriously, why are you all so keen on Lovie Smith? His defensive scheme is passe, we have no idea if he can recruit and he is condescending in his dealings with the media. Not to mention that he has no clue how to hire an offensive coordinator.
It's been about 20 years since Lovie was a college coach. Lot of changes.


This is the part that worries me. The "recruiting trail" is a beast these days. Hope Lovie would be hungry & motivated to do it & excel at it.
 
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purcy51

Nappanee, IN
I like the idea of Frazier as HC better than Lovie. But what do I know? Just a fan with high hopes. Granted his record as an NFL HC are so-so, but it seems most of the places he's been have improved defensively.
 
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I like the idea of Frazier as HC better than Lovie. But what do I know? Just a fan with high hopes. Granted his record as an NFL HC are so-so, but it seems most of the places he's been have improved defensively.

Frazier built a college program (Trinity) from scratch and 8 years later they named the field after him.
 
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Who cares what these sports writers think! If it is Lovie and he walks into your home and sits on your coach and starts talking to you and your son and has his Superbowl ring on..... I'd take a team with 5* and 4* kids over looking for Diamonds in the rough kids! At that point coaching will catch up with the talent.
 
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Who cares what these sports writers think! If it is Lovie and he walks into your home and sits on your coach and starts talking to you and your son and has his Superbowl ring on..... I'd take a team with 5* and 4* kids over looking for Diamonds in the rough kids! At that point coaching will catch up with the talent.

Sports writers hate Lovie because he hates sports writers.
 
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Smith was also DC for the rams when they went to the superbowl in 2001, and they had one of the top defenses in the league that season. Just pointing it out. Couldn't hurt for a recruiter
 
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hooraybeer

Pittsburgh, PA
have to hope for JW's sake at this point that it is a big name hire. expectations are high now
 
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Long time lurker, finally signed up, first time poster:)

I am happy to see Whittman has the guts to make such a move. When my son told me, I thought, why not? Why not find a coach now, adjust in 2016 but get the ball rolling. The other option (IMO) was to essentially gut 2016 and 2017. 2016 might have had some success under Cubit due to retuning talent, but recruting would have taken a huge hit due to uncertainty of next coach or because next coach would have little to no time to recruit.

I see some some are excited to see Lovie Smith bandied about. However, the caveat seems to be "under the circumstances." I am not one who would be excited about this hire.

Advantages:
a players coach
NFL experience
Super Bowl experience.
Recognizeable name

Disadvantages:
Hasn't been in NCAA for long time.
Not charismatic, despite the name
Defensive scheme is soft, bend don't break.
Offensive scheme (IMO) is too conservative. It seems like many strong DC types " don't screw it up for the defense. We will win it for you"


Questions:
He was a "players'" coach as an NFL man. However, while he treated them with respect, a great attribute, will he install discipline in college kids?

Will this translate to recruiting beyond name recognition?

Can he assemble a college type (i.e. Recruiters) staff, especially this late in game. And I am not buying into the Frazier and Singletary's of the world leaving NFL potions for college coordiantor especially at Illinois.

Despite all the chatter, I am doubting Lovie will be willing to restart a career in the NCAA.
 
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This decision took two things. And josh whitmans are huge.
 
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