Illiniaaron
- Geneseo, IL
It was a bad loss and clearly way too early to make any broad pronouncements about this team, but I need some type of hypnosis or therapy to erase that last four minutes from my brain.
Marquette 67, Illinois 66 Postgame
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We haven't had a player be as much of a liability on offense as BBV is since Tate. The reddest of red lights for him on offense going forward. The layups he attempted were some of the worst I've ever seen.
Nailed it
Tacomallini
- Washington State
To be clear, I was already drinking beer. High Life, because WI. Just wanted a pretzel to go with it w/o walking through the arena and missing any of the game. 1st world problems…
While I somewhat agree with that a player can only take so much. The officiating was terrible. Couldn't believe they gave Illini a warning when he grabbed ball and tossed it to the ref when there wasn't a single player from Marquette near him, then later in the game they knocked the ball from Belos hand as he was grabbing it to take it out and the refs did nothing. I would have been T'd up on that one myself.
Hawkins seems to have caught the "whining" bug as well.
And let's reserve judgment until we see 'belo and Kofi on the pick and roll starting with Cincinnati. But I wouldn't complain if 'belo didn't shoot another 3 pointer the entire season. He needs to develop more of the floater/teardrop arsenal, IMO.
sbillini
- st petersburg, fl
frankly, i think Belo annoys the refs, and I don't blame them. I love the kid and am full support of the "one bad game doesn't mean he should be benched" but the outside the whistles antics get a little much. several times when he was inbounding, he'd intentionally and unnecessarily have the ref "check" it to him to buy him more time on the inbounds when Marquette was pressing. then during Marquette's free throws, he'd wander into the lane immediately after the shot goes off for no reason other than to distract the shooter, at one point actually preventing (for a second) the ref from getting the ball to the shooter for the second shot. Obviously everyone plays head games and none of that is outside the rules, but he's a bit over the top with it, and gets on the ref's radars as a result, imo.
He'll come back and learn from a bad game, i'm sure. But toning the antics down will probably help the team in the long-term.
Absolutely true about the blocks. Last year Kofi and, more so, Giorgi took those shot blockers out of the play.. Sometimes Giorgi would block two guys out.
TheFameProtector
- Champaign
Yep, and not that it is at all an excuse for the loss/terrible play, but some of those phantom foul calls (the one on CoHawk near the rim was particularly bad) were horrendous and were mostly going in one direction. It's one thing to not get the calls when on offense and take that as a green light to be able to be more physical on defense. It's an entirely different thing when you are facing physical defense that isn't being called for fouls while you're unable to play the same brand of defense without getting called for a foul for the same level/type of contact.
TheFameProtector
- Champaign
If there's a non-Belo change coming out of this game, it's that I'd like to see Grandi with more opportunities to initiate the offense. He had a bad play down the stretch of this one but generally seems to make the mature play and I would like to see him more empowered within our system. With his 3 point shot (accuracy and release speed), I think he'd be great starting the offense and relocating once he gives it up, a la Curry.
Oh wow, I forgot about the Cohawk phantom foul. The guy just missed an uncontested dunk and the refs called a foul, unbelievable!
Was at the game and there were multiple times where Curbelo looked gassed/sick as a dog. Every time he was taken out, he walked incredibly slow to the bench and at one point in a TV timeout, he basically sat down at the scorer's table. Would not be surprised to find out he was not near 100%.
Brad had to see the same thing too which makes me wonder why he was left in down the stretch when he clearly had nothing else to give.
Brad had to see the same thing too which makes me wonder why he was left in down the stretch when he clearly had nothing else to give.
A guy had too much beer after the game….ran his mouth like an a-hole. Nothing bad happened. But when he woke up this morning, he kept running his mouth like an a-hole when he was sober. Guessing that means he is simply an a-hole.
So many on this board were all jacked up last night ripping Belo, BU, the rest of the team, the officials, etc….I kinda get that. Fans are vested and emotional.
It’s tomorrow…..your emotional excuse from last night lapsed.
BU has re-built this program into a force. Remember that. Belo stunk and will end the year and his career as an Illini great.
Be fans…..be passionate. But for the Love of God……it was a basketball game that was decided in the last seconds by a handful of extremely talented young men doing their best but not succeeding to your expectations.
There may well be a lurker or two on this board that played college ball at this level, but not many, if any.
There could be coaches on this board that have exceeded the accomplishments of BU, but I highly doubt it.
You, me, none of us is Illini basketball. We are simply fans, blessed to call them our own, and hope they are better than the rest.
Most nights they are, and like all of us, they will fail at times as well.
Imagine if tens of thousands of people were watching your every move when you were 19, 20, 22…and countless of those people were as vile to you as Illini Loyalty has been for the past 24 hours.
It’s a game and a bad loss and we will have more of these, but far fewer than the ones where we play great.
Move on with a new take……..
So many on this board were all jacked up last night ripping Belo, BU, the rest of the team, the officials, etc….I kinda get that. Fans are vested and emotional.
It’s tomorrow…..your emotional excuse from last night lapsed.
BU has re-built this program into a force. Remember that. Belo stunk and will end the year and his career as an Illini great.
Be fans…..be passionate. But for the Love of God……it was a basketball game that was decided in the last seconds by a handful of extremely talented young men doing their best but not succeeding to your expectations.
There may well be a lurker or two on this board that played college ball at this level, but not many, if any.
There could be coaches on this board that have exceeded the accomplishments of BU, but I highly doubt it.
You, me, none of us is Illini basketball. We are simply fans, blessed to call them our own, and hope they are better than the rest.
Most nights they are, and like all of us, they will fail at times as well.
Imagine if tens of thousands of people were watching your every move when you were 19, 20, 22…and countless of those people were as vile to you as Illini Loyalty has been for the past 24 hours.
It’s a game and a bad loss and we will have more of these, but far fewer than the ones where we play great.
Move on with a new take……..
My biggest concern is Curbelo seems like a guy who does things to get "notice me", rather than notice the team win. I fear he is more concerned with press clipping, high light videos and gifs for himself. It is a fine line between feeding ones own ego and being an aplha that can lead a team to its greatest potential. Curbelo is not a great outside threat, does not have the length nor the end to end speed of Ayo, nor his mid range game. Curbelo, I believe, feels like he has to make the flashy/spectacular pass to get the press/ink/video/gif. He is really pressing way to hard to do the spectacular which is all about HIM, not the team. He has to remember the name on the jersey. I hope he can do that. I love the kids passion, but it has to be passion for the team, and the team winning, not himself nor personal accolades. Those accolades come to the alpha by the leadership they show in allowing the team to be it's best.
Agree here...dissappointed in press conf too...where he really didn't seem to own the outcome. On no time out..."we practice that play all the time...". I was thinking to myself....there are probably alot of plays that were bungled last night that we "practice all the time".
Settling the guys down with a TO would have been the right call....BU didn't make that call, in favor of "they practice it all the time"...tsk
I would rather a coach say. "I need to do better job of settling team down in the game and preparing them to be successful on the court...this one's on me". Politicians never admit their mistakes and often times coaches dont either
Thanks. Well said.
Season's just started; long way to go.
Buckle up your seat belts; I think it's going to be quite a ride.
Go Illini.
it was just one game, but there are some obvious areas of concern:
1. AC frequently showed lack of discipline last year, and it looked like none of that has been coached out of him.
2. BU has not gotten any better since Loyola at in game adjustments.
3. The 2 transfers should not be counted on to provide very much in tough conference games.
4. who is the leader of this team? Seems to me it should be TF.
5. Are the Freshmen so bad that they could only get one minute between the 3 of them?
6. Whining and complaining on the floor is completely on the coach, who can stop it instantly.
there’s a lot to work on.
1. AC frequently showed lack of discipline last year, and it looked like none of that has been coached out of him.
2. BU has not gotten any better since Loyola at in game adjustments.
3. The 2 transfers should not be counted on to provide very much in tough conference games.
4. who is the leader of this team? Seems to me it should be TF.
5. Are the Freshmen so bad that they could only get one minute between the 3 of them?
6. Whining and complaining on the floor is completely on the coach, who can stop it instantly.
there’s a lot to work on.
Calillini
Now appearing in Tampa
Ok, I get you basic point, but who are the “older guys” ? Trent did his job, DMW not so much. The only other older guy(s) are new to our system or lack significant playing time up to now. When you bench them, who steps up on the current roster?
older =/ experienced
I've taken some time to reflect on last night's madness. Emotions run high especially after tough losses like these.
I'm still firmly in Curbelo's corner. He's a special talent and even special talents have rough games. It happens. This will only make him a better player in the future. Guaranteed he spent all of last night and today beating himself up over his performance. He'll bounce back.
I'm still firmly in Curbelo's corner. He's a special talent and even special talents have rough games. It happens. This will only make him a better player in the future. Guaranteed he spent all of last night and today beating himself up over his performance. He'll bounce back.
Well if we are ripping on players, I haven't seen much about Bosmans-Verdonk. Rebounds like Tarzan, puts back like Jane. Missing 4 shots from less than 4 ft really hurts.
I hope Kofi can average 32 minutes per game, because against legit competition, we don't have much else in the paint. Can we get Morez Johnson eligible right now?
I hope Kofi can average 32 minutes per game, because against legit competition, we don't have much else in the paint. Can we get Morez Johnson eligible right now?
At least we got the first L out of the way. Tough lesson to learn. But I’m confident these grown men will bounce back.
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