Michigan coach Juwan Howard takes swing at Wisconsin assistant coach

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skyIdub

Winged Warrior
I see it better now from the other video posted....Gard did "grab" him.

And to be clear...I'm not defending Gard here.....but if it had ended with Gard grabbing Howards arm followed by Howard grabbing Gard...and words exchanged....this would be a Nothing Burger. That interaction between heated coaches happens ALL the time in handshake lines.

It's what happened after that that makes this the Deluxe Burger. With cheese. And bacon.
 
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Guard was not violent. He was totally caught off guard shaking hands while holding his forearm doing so. The B10 commish hopefully will see things like they actually occurred I don't care for Guard or Howard but Gaurd didn't wasn't the cause of Howard's over reaction. Howard was ready to explode and the announcers saw it coming but Guard didn't
 
#107      
My suggestion is to just sit back and enjoy this ride. No need to dissect the facts of the case. AT A MINIMUM, Howard has embarrassed himself and the entire University of Michigan on national TV and put his good buddy Kevin Warren in an uncomfortable position. Gard didn't come out looking too good either. This is great!

Also Howard fights like a prepubescent bird.
 
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pruman91

Paducah, Ky
hey y'all! Illinois not involved one iota in this! might even benefit from forthcoming suspensions. just enjoy the mayhem or move on.
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heh, heh ,..........grown men touching each other and b**ch slapping each other ............heh heh ...........Yeah , TP for my bu****le.....
 
#111      

IlliniKat91

Chicago, IL
I have watched it and you're right. It's plain as day what happened.

They're both Big Ten basketball coaches. They've done the preseason and Big Ten tourney press days together for years. They're colleagues and likely have a relationship outside the games they see each other (same a BU has mentioned with coaches like Izzo).

Stepping into a colleague's path to engage in discussion when said colleague just tried to make a backhanded comment isn't unexpected or disrespectful, particularly in a loud environment like an arena.

Howard said to stop touching him. Gard did. Howard continued to escalate beyond what a reasonable person (the general legal test) would. He's in the wrong on this one, particularly since he didn't even strike the man that initially touched him.

If he had hit Gard, your argument would have at least a leg to stand on. That's not the case when you watch the video.
 
#112      
I'm just happy that our only remaining road game will be against a weakened and frazzled Michigan team, which still leaves us in the driver's seat to win a title if we win our toughest game remaining against OSU.
 
#114      
The DX Sxck it move? You don’t invite another man to your pxxis unless you’re ready for altercation. and Juwan tried to walk by him after the game, whatever Wisconsin’s coach name is, well he shouldn’t have touched Juwan, you just don’t do that and if you don’t understand what I’m talking about we were raised differently and that’s fine.
 
#117      
☝️

Switching the focus from Wisky to the Illini

Need to find a Pizza Hut near by
 
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#119      

Wokker

"The Good Land", WI
This is something else worth considering. Why the hell did JH Even go through the handshake line if he was going to blow off the other HC? What did he think was going to happen?

Gard certainly seems toolish, but isn’t it a reasonable response to stop a coach who ignores you in THE HANDSHAKE LINE?
 
#120      

altgeld88

Arlington, Virginia
Caution, language. This is a great clip. Howard, as he admitted in his presser, tells Gard he’ll remember this, at which point Gard grabs his arm to stop him and give his rebuttal regarding Michigan pressing. But Howard immediately goes off with “Don’t f’ing touch me”.

Also, Brad Davison really enjoys singing and doesn’t want anyone or anything to take away singing time.

Gard has a reputation as a tool. However, Juwan was in complete control of this situation all the way through. How you get from "Please; I don't want to talk about it now, Greg" to taking a swing across several heads at some assistant coach who may or may not have slagged you verbally is a heck of a stretch.

I don't believe he'll be fired for this. I don't see it happening. But he has given the university and his program a black eye by this behavior. The guy is taller and bigger than every other mature adult there. He's nearly 50 years old. Nothing, absolutely nothing, prevented him from holding his hands up and saying "Guys, let's take this up later" and walking on. His behavior was indefensible. Period. Doesn't matter if the worst human being on earth makes that observation; it remains the case. He is first and foremost a role model for his team, as Bill Musselman was on the floor of Williams Arena 50 years ago last month when all hell broke loose at the end of the game and his players attacked Ohio State players in the most underhanded way possible. It begins and ends with the coach.

I'm sympathetic to someone who grew up in an environment in which disagreements were settled physically. Completely sympathetic, having had firsthand experience for many years with someone from such an environment. But 30 years after leaving that environment, especially when you made millions of dollars along the way that afforded you the resources and time to learn to react differently, and modulate your behavior in a civilized manner, you're long out of excuses and slack. He had a choice and he chose badly, on national TV, and it led to his players getting in fistfights solely b/c he lacked judgement, maturity, and impulse control. Did the guy learn nothing form the Turgeon incident last spring? The fact that Howard expressed no contrition or even regret (not even the ever-ready "mistakes were made" buck-passing of the spineless) in his postgame presser today (and didn't have the good judgement just to bow out of it altogether) floors me.

End of story, boys. The chips will fall where they will, regardless of what's fair, just, or rational. I will be surprised if Juwan Howard, Kevin Warren, or Warde Manuel emerge from this looking better than they did at noon today.

Peace out.
 
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If it's only two or three games, I'd be shocked. This was on National TV. Kevin Warren is going to be insanely ticked. If I'm Michigan, I'm trying to get out ahead of this and give him five games, hoping the NCAA deems that as acceptable.

I think Diakite was throwing punches after that happened too.
Several Michigan players were throwing punches and should be suspended as well.
 
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pruman91

Paducah, Ky
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Coward did WHAT ??.......................................Damn , I do him a favor last year and this is how he repays me...........Damn Bigfoot looking dumb***...................

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OK , after reviewing the video and talking to all parties concerned ...........I have made my decision ..................................

Mr. Coward is required to write ""I will not curse at or b**ch slap any other coaches in the B1G this year , 1000 times ........This mandate does NOT preclude Mr. Coward from cursing or b**ch slapping coaches out of conference or picking up live basketballs in games played in any post season tourneys , if they can qualify for any tourneys........

I know this may seem harsh to many in the B1G but I felt like I had to make a statement here..........I'm also awarding the game today between scUM and Wisky as a forfeit win for the scUMmers as that last timeout by wisky was a taunting issue by wisky and caused the fine young fighters, oops , I mean athletes from scUM great disrespect ........

My ruling is final , unless Mr . Coward asks me to help him some more .....
 
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This is something else worth considering. Why the hell did JH Even go through the handshake line if he was going to blow off the other HC? What did he think was going to happen?

Gard certainly seems toolish, but isn’t it a reasonable response to stop a coach who ignores you in THE HANDSHAKE LINE?
The biggest thing so many defending Howard (not you, obviously) are missing is this: he did NOT ignore Gard. There is raw video on Twitter of him going by, not making eye contact, and saying, "I'll remember that s***." Which, first off, he needs to grow up if he is so offended that Gard called a timeout when he had the bad sportsmanship to run a press against walk-ons. Second, that necessitates an explanation from Gard if Howard is going to say that and keep walking.

Howard is an embarrassment to Michigan and the Big Ten, but I hope he doesn't get fired. I would love coaches who take a top-10 team and put them on the path towards the NIT to stay for life!
 
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Wokker

"The Good Land", WI
The biggest thing so many defending Howard (not you, obviously) are missing is this: he did NOT ignore Gard. There is raw video on Twitter of him going by, not making eye contact, and saying, "I'll remember that s***." Which, first off, he needs to grow up if he is so offended that Gard called a timeout when he had the bad sportsmanship to run a press against walk-ons. Second, that necessitates an explanation from Gard if Howard is going to say that and keep walking.

Howard is an embarrassment to Michigan and the Big Ten, but I hope he doesn't get fired. I would love coaches who take a top-10 team and put them on the path towards the NIT to stay for life!
Ah good catch. I missed he said that on the blow by.

Yikes.
 
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JJE

Bethalto, IL
So after today, you gotta ask yourself, what Big Ten Basketball coach would not want to take a punch from? I would have said Howard for sure, until I saw the poor form in that slap punch today.
 
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