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“Timeout South Carolina”
Nah, MSU just ran out of time.
Michigan State 79, Illinois 65 Postgame
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Tonight the Illini took 30 two point shots and scored 34 points (1.13 pts per shot.) They took 33 three point shots and scored 21 points (.64 points per shot.) The totals for the year are similar. It's not rocket science, just simple math.
Orangetool
Give me back my Afta, heh heh
Oh man, perfect but cold.
Germanboxers
- Fort Wayne, IN
That’s exactly right…so the Illini, fans and donors have to ride out a sinking ship before doing something about it. I get that that is how it typically goes, but be bold! Get ahead of it and avoid the 2 or 3 years sinking into the abyss.
This is the elephant in the room. The turnover for next year could be a real problem.
You'll have a conversation with him? Just put him in the damn game! You're the coach, man.
18-14, which is very realistic, probably gets us an 8/9 seed just due to metrics.
He’s cashing some big checks to ride the pine.
whole night is an embarrassment. This one will live in Illini infamy. Just a meme for Illini ineptitude.
That was so bad.
If you have any old Groce pressers, just replay them. You won't notice any difference.
Brad built the program back up, but it’s time for someone else to bring it further.
It shouldn’t be a surprise that Brad has a ceiling. It was obvious from the first two years where we played that ridiculous denying-every-pass defense and we got killed on backdoor passes every game… it took two entire years to realize that it wouldn’t work. It was driving me nuts after the first few Big Ten games in 2017-18 when it was clear it wasn’t going to work.
Only after we were able to add top tier recruits that we made a leap. We rode Ayo (who should get as much or more credit than anyone for coming here when we were in the gutter) and Kofi to the top of the Big Ten. That team had no business losing to Loyola, but Brad got his as! handed to him by Porter Moser because they sold out to stop the Ayo PnR and we made zero adjustments. That team has way too much talent to not make at least the E8.
Without TSJ averaging 31 points in the BTT and first three rounds of the NCAAT, we don’t make the elite 8.
Credit to Brad for getting those players to come here and motivate them to perform at a high level. But never expect him to take a team and have it over-perform its talent.
It shouldn’t be a surprise that Brad has a ceiling. It was obvious from the first two years where we played that ridiculous denying-every-pass defense and we got killed on backdoor passes every game… it took two entire years to realize that it wouldn’t work. It was driving me nuts after the first few Big Ten games in 2017-18 when it was clear it wasn’t going to work.
Only after we were able to add top tier recruits that we made a leap. We rode Ayo (who should get as much or more credit than anyone for coming here when we were in the gutter) and Kofi to the top of the Big Ten. That team had no business losing to Loyola, but Brad got his as! handed to him by Porter Moser because they sold out to stop the Ayo PnR and we made zero adjustments. That team has way too much talent to not make at least the E8.
Without TSJ averaging 31 points in the BTT and first three rounds of the NCAAT, we don’t make the elite 8.
Credit to Brad for getting those players to come here and motivate them to perform at a high level. But never expect him to take a team and have it over-perform its talent.
If he's on the phone looking for a way forward, that's good. I hope he won't be angry. I hope he instead is working on a solution. Let's go!
Can you imagine being an opposing coach game planning for our offense?
“They shoot a ton of 3’s.” => “So we are going to extend our defense out?” => “No, they’re really bad at shooting 3’s, so we’re just going to let them do it….”
“They shoot a ton of 3’s.” => “So we are going to extend our defense out?” => “No, they’re really bad at shooting 3’s, so we’re just going to let them do it….”
Germanboxers
- Fort Wayne, IN
Let’s get a coach deserving of that kind of pay and honor, someone who will put the team’s success above his ego and his child’s professional “leg up”.
Probably needs to beg him for forgiveness as he has been done dirty multiple times this season
This night might be to Underwood what the Penn St loss is to Weber
Technically the zero wasn’t upside down.
201154JC
- Rockford, IL
I was thinking something similar. It wasn't 30 straight like the UConn game, however, it was us getting outscored by 30 (64-34) after our 31 to 15 lead. The lack of adjustments, bizarre rotations, the failure to use timeouts to stem the tide have become more than worrisome. I started doubting Brad after our worse loss ever, Loyola. Great recruiting will only take you so far.
You realize that we put a WHOLE NEW ROSTER together this year, right? The whole thing. DGL was the only guy to return. Why did we recruit him? These are young guys and a few of them need time to develop and in Booth's case, he just needs to be physically stronger.
The fact that the expectation was for him to recruit a Final Four caliber starting 5 + 3 deep on the bench is just stupid and idiotically unrealistic.
This team plays like a team of young guys, mostly freshmen, who have enormous pressure on their shoulders for the first time.
Oh, wait. They are a team of freshmen that have enormous pressure for the first time. These long meltdowns don't happen with four seniors on the floor. That's not our situation.
This is the first year of college basketball for our most important pieces. I'm fine with the learning lessons. They're hard ones. The issue is, you bring these guys along.....will they be her next year for all of this effort to pay dividends?
Doubt it.
The fact that the expectation was for him to recruit a Final Four caliber starting 5 + 3 deep on the bench is just stupid and idiotically unrealistic.
This team plays like a team of young guys, mostly freshmen, who have enormous pressure on their shoulders for the first time.
Oh, wait. They are a team of freshmen that have enormous pressure for the first time. These long meltdowns don't happen with four seniors on the floor. That's not our situation.
This is the first year of college basketball for our most important pieces. I'm fine with the learning lessons. They're hard ones. The issue is, you bring these guys along.....will they be her next year for all of this effort to pay dividends?
Doubt it.
Wait til they miss the tournament. They aren’t winning again this season. And wait til Duke obliterates them.
Is it just me or do we allow a player from every team to have a career game against us
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