Michigan-Wisconsin Postgame Fight
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Ok, I laughed my !!! off at this comment. But there are soooo many videos. Who exactly is "nut puncher." I can only imagine it's someone anywhere from a MI player/coach to Brad Davison.
RedRocksIllini
- Morrison, CO
the latter
IlliniwekKDR
- Colorado Springs, CO
Junior hockey player gets lifetime ban after punching referee in the face
Paul Halloran will never play in the United States Premier Hockey League again
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And yet in the Big Ten, an adult striking another adult on the head is perfectly fine...
wow ... not only the Marquette game in 2018, but the Iowa game in 2020. Sorry, been away from college hoops for a bit, so ...
His response to the latter on McCaffery: "I just gotta find a better way to get around the screen, I guess."
SKane
- Tennessee
The Brothers Karamazov were very different persons too and all different from Fyodor.
Then again, it is more common that the apple does not fall far from the tree.
pruman91
- Paducah, Ky
Davison
I think it was first against PU. around 47:45 mark. that team was so fun to watch. a well oiled machine on both O and DomgWell, ... Dee Brown started the jersey pop at a Penn State away game, and Diego Maradona started the rip-off the-jersey celebration in soccer.View attachment 15632 ... well,
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Like OJ? -that explains
Juan’s and Michigan’s albatross
JFGsCoffeeMug
BU:1 Trash cans:0
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Given what it looks like when Howard throws a "punch," it's no surprise his players struggle with the concept themselves.
You mean like putting in a scrub to take out Ayo with a broken nose and concussion ???
I'll give you a like for referencing Dostoevsky.
I think you are right. I always forget that it was away against PU, not PSU.
altgeld88
- Arlington, Virginia
Like father like son in this case. His dad had maniacal intensity.
Only time I ever heard "He cared too much about winning" as a reason a coach was fired.
frozenrope9190
- Aurora, IL
I was born just after the 1972 Ohio State - Minnesota brawl. I'm reading up on it now and saw the grainy video, and I'm in a bit of shock after watching it.
Does anyone here remember that game, or even saw it on TV or live?
Does anyone here remember that game, or even saw it on TV or live?
I saw it happen live on TV. I couldn’t believe what I was seeing - there was blood flowing everywhere on the floor. Even the Minny mascot got involved and laid out a Buckeye player. Baseball great Dave Winfield came off the bench with another guy and just whipped !!! on Luke Witte while he was being held down on the floor. Fans came out the stands and got involved. It was the worst and most disgusting sports fight that I ever witnessed in any sport. Crazy!
altgeld88
- Arlington, Virginia
It is, unfortunately, one of my earliest sports memories, though I was too young to stay up and watch the game that evening. I had just turned six at the time and had been into college football and basketball with my dad and older bother for a year or so. I grew up in Columbus and Luke Witte (the initial target of the attack and the worst injured) was my favorite player on that OSU team. I still remember the cover of the morning newspaper a couple days later, which contained photos of him and Mark Wager, who was also attacked. That was pretty disturbing. The whole thing was ugly beyond belief. Dave Winfield played a major role in it for Minnesota and has steadfastly refused to acknowledge the event.
It was a very physical game, Bill Musselman had whipped his players and the crowd into a frenzy, and Minnesota was six points behind and going down to defeat when Jim Brewer fouled Witte hard as he went up for a breakaway layup with 40 seconds remaining. I have heard from someone who knew the Minnesota principals involved that they claimed a racial slur earlier in the game triggered it all. That has never been reported publicly. If true, however, it doesn't explain the underhanded and vicious nature of the attack.
You can find a lot on it online. Over the past 10-15 years the Mpls Star-Tribune has had pieces, including on the occasion when Corky Taylor, the player who extended his hand to Luke Witte after Jim Brewer fouled him hard and sent him sprawling, and then kneed Witte in the groin as he "helped him" off the floor, died around 2012. Few if any involved ever spoke of it publicly, beyond Luke Witte, who reconciled with Corky Taylor and Clyde Turner many years later. Witte and Taylor became friends. Coincidentally, Witte played with Jim Brewer on the Cavs in the early '70s.
Lots of stuff on it out there. The best, however, in my opinion, is a chapter that Luke Witte contributed to a book of essays published in 2007 called Basketball and Philosophy. Witte writes about the process of forgiveness and reconciliation, beginning on page 71. After playing in the NBA and Europe, and owning a sporting goods store in NE Ohio, he became a minister and remains one to this day.
Basketball and Philosophy
What can the film Hoosiers teach us about the meaning of life? How can ancient Eastern wisdom traditions, such as Taoism and Zen Buddhism, improve our jump-shots? What can the ÒZen MasterÓ (Phil Jackson) and the ÒBig AristotleÓ (Shaquille OÕNeal) teach us about sustained excellence and success...
books.google.com
The SI article from the Feb. 7, 1972 issue is a good one (the link is to the text; click on the "Original Layout" and you can see the article and photos from the magazine)
AN UGLY AFFAIR IN MINNEAPOLIS
He had been wheeled out of Minnesota's Williams Arena on a long stretcher, bleeding and numb. At the university hospital he had spent an hour in the emergency
vault.si.com
Rob Oller (The Columbus Dispatch - January 2022): Violence erupted 50 years ago when Ohio State played Minnesota in basketball
Rob Oller: Violence erupted 50 years ago when Ohio State played Minnesota in basketball
It was a sad and terrifying night in sports when Minnsota players and fans beat up Ohio State men's basketball players on Jan. 25, 1972.
Star-Trib sportswriter Sid Hartman was there that evening. He was sitting courtside as Dave Winfield punched a defenseless OSU player repeatedly right on the floor in front of him.
2012 - Corky Taylor's Death:
https://www.startribune.com/hartman...back-memories-of-riot/160779435/?refresh=true
https://www.startribune.com/ex-goph...ess-of-his-worst-hour/160740655/?refresh=true
2017 - 45th Anniversary of Attack
https://www.startribune.com/hoops-b...in-u-s-sports-history/411419775/?refresh=true
College Basketball's Most Brutal Brawl, and the Forgiveness That Followed
https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/...rutal-brawl-and-the-forgiveness-that-followed
Wow, truly shocking stuff. I had not been aware of this incident. Really underscores the point that this stuff needs to be taken seriously. The fact that Winfield got to go onto have the career he did and Behagen, who stomped on a defenseless guy's head, got to have a 7 year NBA career after that is just wrong, in my opinion.It is, unfortunately, one of my earliest sports memories, though I was too young to stay up and watch the game that evening. I had just turned six at the time and had been into college football and basketball with my dad and older bother for a year or so. I grew up in Columbus and Luke Witte (the initial target of the attack and the worst injured) was my favorite player on that OSU team. I still remember the cover of the morning newspaper a couple days later, which contained photos of him and Mark Wager, who was also attacked. That was pretty disturbing. The whole thing was ugly beyond belief. Dave Winfield played a major role in it for Minnesota and has steadfastly refused to acknowledge the event.
It was a very physical game, Bill Musselman had whipped his players and the crowd into a frenzy, and Minnesota was six points behind and going down to defeat when Jim Brewer fouled Witte hard as he went up for a breakaway layup with 40 seconds remaining. I have heard from someone who knew the Minnesota principals involved that they claimed a racial slur earlier in the game triggered it all. That has never been reported publicly. If true, however, it doesn't explain the underhanded and vicious nature of the attack.
You can find a lot on it online. Over the past 10-15 years the Mpls Star-Tribune has had pieces, including on the occasion when Corky Taylor, the player who extended his hand to Luke Witte after Jim Brewer fouled him hard and sent him sprawling, and then kneed Witte in the groin as he "helped him" off the floor, died around 2012. Few if any involved ever spoke of it publicly, beyond Luke Witte, who reconciled with Corky Taylor and Clyde Turner many years later. Witte and Taylor became friends. Coincidentally, Witte played with Jim Brewer on the Cavs in the early '70s.
Lots of stuff on it out there. The best, however, in my opinion, is a chapter that Luke Witte contributed to a book of essays published in 2007 called Basketball and Philosophy. Witte writes about the process of forgiveness and reconciliation, beginning on page 71. After playing in the NBA and Europe, and owning a sporting goods store in NE Ohio, he became a minister and remains one to this day.
Basketball and Philosophy
What can the film Hoosiers teach us about the meaning of life? How can ancient Eastern wisdom traditions, such as Taoism and Zen Buddhism, improve our jump-shots? What can the ÒZen MasterÓ (Phil Jackson) and the ÒBig AristotleÓ (Shaquille OÕNeal) teach us about sustained excellence and success...books.google.com
The SI article from the Feb. 7, 1972 issue is a good one (the link is to the text; click on the "Original Layout" and you can see the article and photos from the magazine)
AN UGLY AFFAIR IN MINNEAPOLIS
He had been wheeled out of Minnesota's Williams Arena on a long stretcher, bleeding and numb. At the university hospital he had spent an hour in the emergency
Rob Oller (The Columbus Dispatch - January 2022): Violence erupted 50 years ago when Ohio State played Minnesota in basketball
Rob Oller: Violence erupted 50 years ago when Ohio State played Minnesota in basketball
It was a sad and terrifying night in sports when Minnsota players and fans beat up Ohio State men's basketball players on Jan. 25, 1972.news.yahoo.com
Star-Trib sportswriter Sid Hartman was there that evening. He was sitting courtside as Dave Winfield punched a defenseless OSU player repeatedly right on the floor in front of him.
2012 - Corky Taylor's Death:
https://www.startribune.com/hartman...back-memories-of-riot/160779435/?refresh=true
https://www.startribune.com/ex-goph...ess-of-his-worst-hour/160740655/?refresh=true
2017 - 45th Anniversary of Attack
https://www.startribune.com/hoops-b...in-u-s-sports-history/411419775/?refresh=true
College Basketball's Most Brutal Brawl, and the Forgiveness That Followed
https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/...rutal-brawl-and-the-forgiveness-that-followed
OurMottoisOskeeWowWow
- Illinois
Michigan favored by 6 at the moment against Rutgers.
frozenrope9190
- Aurora, IL
Thank you. This is excellent stuff to research. That sucks that it's one of your earliest sports memories. Mine was the 1979 Pirates-Orioles World Series on my parent's black and white TV. A little bit cheerier.It is, unfortunately, one of my earliest sports memories, though I was too young to stay up and watch the game that evening. I had just turned six at the time and had been into college football and basketball with my dad and older bother for a year or so. I grew up in Columbus and Luke Witte (the initial target of the attack and the worst injured) was my favorite player on that OSU team. I still remember the cover of the morning newspaper a couple days later, which contained photos of him and Mark Wager, who was also attacked. That was pretty disturbing. The whole thing was ugly beyond belief. Dave Winfield played a major role in it for Minnesota and has steadfastly refused to acknowledge the event.
It was a very physical game, Bill Musselman had whipped his players and the crowd into a frenzy, and Minnesota was six points behind and going down to defeat when Jim Brewer fouled Witte hard as he went up for a breakaway layup with 40 seconds remaining. I have heard from someone who knew the Minnesota principals involved that they claimed a racial slur earlier in the game triggered it all. That has never been reported publicly. If true, however, it doesn't explain the underhanded and vicious nature of the attack.
You can find a lot on it online. Over the past 10-15 years the Mpls Star-Tribune has had pieces, including on the occasion when Corky Taylor, the player who extended his hand to Luke Witte after Jim Brewer fouled him hard and sent him sprawling, and then kneed Witte in the groin as he "helped him" off the floor, died around 2012. Few if any involved ever spoke of it publicly, beyond Luke Witte, who reconciled with Corky Taylor and Clyde Turner many years later. Witte and Taylor became friends. Coincidentally, Witte played with Jim Brewer on the Cavs in the early '70s.
Lots of stuff on it out there. The best, however, in my opinion, is a chapter that Luke Witte contributed to a book of essays published in 2007 called Basketball and Philosophy. Witte writes about the process of forgiveness and reconciliation, beginning on page 71. After playing in the NBA and Europe, and owning a sporting goods store in NE Ohio, he became a minister and remains one to this day.
Basketball and Philosophy
What can the film Hoosiers teach us about the meaning of life? How can ancient Eastern wisdom traditions, such as Taoism and Zen Buddhism, improve our jump-shots? What can the ÒZen MasterÓ (Phil Jackson) and the ÒBig AristotleÓ (Shaquille OÕNeal) teach us about sustained excellence and success...books.google.com
The SI article from the Feb. 7, 1972 issue is a good one (the link is to the text; click on the "Original Layout" and you can see the article and photos from the magazine)
AN UGLY AFFAIR IN MINNEAPOLIS
He had been wheeled out of Minnesota's Williams Arena on a long stretcher, bleeding and numb. At the university hospital he had spent an hour in the emergency
Rob Oller (The Columbus Dispatch - January 2022): Violence erupted 50 years ago when Ohio State played Minnesota in basketball
Rob Oller: Violence erupted 50 years ago when Ohio State played Minnesota in basketball
It was a sad and terrifying night in sports when Minnsota players and fans beat up Ohio State men's basketball players on Jan. 25, 1972.
Star-Trib sportswriter Sid Hartman was there that evening. He was sitting courtside as Dave Winfield punched a defenseless OSU player repeatedly right on the floor in front of him.
2012 - Corky Taylor's Death:
https://www.startribune.com/hartman...back-memories-of-riot/160779435/?refresh=true
https://www.startribune.com/ex-goph...ess-of-his-worst-hour/160740655/?refresh=true
2017 - 45th Anniversary of Attack
https://www.startribune.com/hoops-b...in-u-s-sports-history/411419775/?refresh=true
College Basketball's Most Brutal Brawl, and the Forgiveness That Followed
https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/...rutal-brawl-and-the-forgiveness-that-followed
InDaAZ
- Eugene, Oregon
frozenrope9190
- Aurora, IL
Oh, man. Blood all over the court? That's horrible to be watching live. I'm trying to think of any sporting event where a brawl has gotten that ugly. That Detroit/Indiana NBA brawl where the players went into the stands is probably the worst.
I remember this brawl but did not see it live. I remember it from video clips on the news and I remember Luke Witte was never the same dominant player he was beforehand.
Jim Brewer was from Proviso East and was a great Illinois High School player. And Dave Winfield became a great baseball player.
Another horrible seen was when Kermit Wahington of the Lakers cheap shotted Rudy Tomjanovich of the Houston Rockets. Rudy had to have numerous surgeries and the Lakers traded Washington pretty quickly after the event, but he then played for another team. Just a vicious scene.
pruman91
- Paducah, Ky
Tipsheet: Michigan coach Juwan Howard needs to simmer down
Juwan Howard isn't in the NBA anymore. He is working for a university, so he can't go off on opposing coaches and trigger postgame skirmishes.
Writing for USA Today, Paul Myerberg had this take:
Given his recent history and the way Sunday's dustup drew widespread and immediate condemnation, there was a real possibility that Howard had coached his last game with the Wolverines. That choice represented the worst-case scenario on the list of options at Michigan's disposal. Nonetheless, considering that this is the second scuffle against a fellow Big Ten coach in his three seasons with the program, the school had to at least consider the possibility that a change was necessary.His continued inability to maintain a baseline of composure is a major red flag for Michigan and the Big Ten. Last March, Howard drew a pair of technical fouls and was ejected from a game against Maryland after verbally clashing with then-Maryland coach Mark Turgeon, who claimed afterwards that Howard yelled, ‘I'm gonna [expletive] kill you.’These two outbursts paint the picture of a coach publicly teetering on the brink of instability, where moments as mundane as late-game timeouts — Wisconsin's backups needed a reset backcourt clock to get the ball past half court, Gard said — carry the possibility of triggering disturbing free-for-all brawls.
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