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What a joke. I only learned of this event earlier this year. That’s really terrible. They should have had to vacate that banner.
Michigan-Wisconsin Postgame Fight
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lstewart53x3
- Scottsdale, Arizona
Gard did nothing wrong.
SKane
- Tennessee
And gone to jail.
I watched the game last night and Rutgers is terrible on the road for the most part. Dickinson played solid but Kofi has shut him down in the past. I did not see Michigan as superiorly better and we match up better. I will be a stern test but we should and will win.
Exactly, as much as I despise Gard, he did nothing to instigate or prolong this. Krabbenhoft on the other hand should have been fined or suspended. He acted just as bad as Coward did
Disagree with your take on Krab. He was in the middle of the scrum but if everyone was fined/suspended for each push or word said as they tried to clean up said scrum, there’d be like 3 people left on each side to play/coach.
Coward came back to the scrum and swung at Krab in a way that could never be construed as self defense. Krab definitely did NOT do that so there is no way he acted as badly as Coward.
Note: Now that I’ve said scrum multiple times in this post, I realize you can’t spell scrum without UM. BAZING (also scum)
Missed the punch he threw!
Gard should not have been fined.
You may be correct...but I would argue that he didn't do anything right either
lstewart53x3
- Scottsdale, Arizona
How so?
Howard pressed. So Gard called a timeout.
He did nothing wrong there.
Howard went to the back of the handshake line. Then tried to walk by without shaking Gard’s hand *in the handshake line* as he passed he yelled, “I’ll remember that sh*t”.
Surprised, Gard then grabs Howard’s arm to explain and make peace.
He did nothing wrong.
That was my take completely. Gard was trying to diffuse the issue immediately. If you have ever had a dust up with a friend in a game, you know you need to get it over with as soon as possible. If you don't, feelings just get worse, a wall goes up and it becomes much harder to resolve. If Howard had been willing to listen rather than threaten they could have worked it out right there.
Well...I am saying both coaches were wrong .....Howard much more so than Gard... Gard could have done things a little differently....Mich should have called off the press...no reason for the press in late game that was over, all but the final score....but that doesn't excuse Gard for calling a TO....didn't want to get a 10 sec. call with only seconds leftl....really....as I said the game is over all but final score....Gard took the timeout to get his players better organized...maybe....maybe not....but I guarantee he was sending a message to Mich as well....your're gonna be an !!! and press....ok..2 can play that game...I;ll call timeout and let this last just a little longer.....in the handshake line...it looked very clearly to me Howard was going to blow by Gard with his comment about I'll remember this crap....looked to me like Gard grabbed Howards arm to say hey....if you hadn't been pressing I wouldn't have had to called a TO...was he justified in trying to explain...maybe...but could have Gard just simply said...hey good game....or simply said nothing and moved on through the line....dont get me wrong...Howard was defenetily in the wrong...but I don't think one could say Gard was totally in the right....he could have done things differently that maybe would have defused the situation.....it's easy for all of us to sit back and armchair this situation after its over.....am I blaming Gard...nope...but I'm not buying he was totally without fault..JMHO
pruman91
- Paducah, Ky
Gard then grabs Howard’s arm to explain and make peace.
How do you know that ??.............
Not calling you out at all but it looked to me like Gard got pissed when Mr. Coward said " I'll remember that s**t "......Maybe Gard is good friends with Turgeon and already disliked Mr. Coward...............................Coaches are super competitive and Mr. Coward was acting like an a** big time .............
I dislike scUM because of their haughty nature and hope they lose every game no matter what sport it is ........But , I dislike Gard also....not to the extent of scUM , but a lot goes on behind the scenes in these college programs and with the dude from wisky who transferred and made some allegations about the program and the Tucker recording fiasco makes me think Gard is no angel.........
Still believe that Mr. Coward should have been fired b/c it was his second offense of this nature or at least suspended till next year at the very least.......
One thing I do know , BU would never embarrass the beloved or himself with such childish antics as we saw between Coward and Gard and others that day.................... JMHO
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you don't work it out right after a game ...in which emotions may be running high and you may disagree with something the opposing coach did or din't do....in front of TV cameras, reports, players, fans, etc....no...take time and reflect...call the next day and say hey...I know you were pissed...but here's why I did what I did....now if you don't like that ...then go pound sand...don't have that conversation in public...that's how that should have worked
sbillini
- st petersburg, fl
i think there's a difference between not escalating a situation and not trying to diffuse a situation. Sure Gard could've done more to diffuse the situation (i.e. just walk by as JH called him out (using profane language) for doing something completely justified and within the rules. Gard didn't do that. But faulting him for not diffusing the situation is ridiculous, imo. And I think most wouldn't consider grabbing a forearm to stop someone who just threatened you so you can explain yourself an "escalation". JH had already escalated it.
Well It certainly escalated when the 2 coaches stopped and began to talk....both should have exercised better judgement....so my point is that Gard didn't do anything to help the situation...so I'm not buying the take that Gard tried to defuse the situation
Gard could have let Howard say what he said and not reponded, sure.
Lets say someone rear ends your car. Nothing major, just a small dent on the bumper. You get out of your car and ask for their insurance info. They refuse. You insist. They punch you in the nose. Are you partly to blame? I mean, you could have just let the guy go, right?
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OK got it, Gard didn’t understand Howard was an a-hole. He was guilty.
DeonThomas
- South Carolina
Thank you. You nailed it! 100% agree on all points, including your bolded guarantee. Tit for tat.
I respect you wearing Maize and Blue glasses, but you cannot guarantee squat . . . .
sbillini
- st petersburg, fl
I never said Gard tried to defuse the situation...in fact i said the opposite. My point is you can't lay blame on someone (even relatively less so than the primary person) because they didn't try to defuse to the situation when they could've.
JH escalated each step of the way (pressing, then comment during the line, then grabbing Gard by the collar, etc. etc.). Gard just matched him most of the way (until JH started throwing slaps), but he didn't escalate. in this type of situation - until physical harm is involved - I don't think you can "blame" someone for not defusing. Once it gets physical, then becomes more of a gray area.
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