Exactly. I have seen this suggestion on other sites. This suggestion is simply losing basketball. They are called free throws for a reason. I have watched basketball for over 60 years at a lot of levels and have never seen it once. If you are a coach and implement this philosophy and your opponent makes a free throw, you look like a fool if your team does not score.There’s no way you’re being serious. You don’t hand the other team go ahead free throws on the last possession of the game
Nebraska 83, Illinois 80 Postgame
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Just a reminder that Loyola ended that season as the #10 team on KenPom and #13 on Torvik.
IMHO, it stems from the Loyola loss in the tournament.
Lol just take a look at his contract. That's never happening.
We should have beat Loyola, obviously the low point of brads tenure i agree.
That said, after losses like this I see the “well we need to make sure we get a good seed for higher odds of advancing” and it just gives me PTSD the committee will always get it wrong for us lol.
Who is gonna be the player on this roster to take charge of a players only meeting? I dont see a take charge fire and brimstone get down to brass tacks guy in the inventory.
So to use the kind of silly math y'all like, he's made 1 second weekend in the 16 seasons since he started at Iowa St. He's 1 for 16!
Edit: misread the original post, have corrected my comment.
Illini in Italy
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You’re looking for rational thoughts and words from Loyalty posters?
It's insanity. After Wednesday, some of the same people who sit here today(and yesterday)with the flaming pitchforks going after everyone associated with the program.....had us headed to Indy after beating Ohio State. If we beat Missouri handily, we'll be headed back to Indy.
I grew up playing motion offense. Ball going into the paint and either score or kick out to an open player. I keep thinking of the 15 pass possession against NW in 05. Poetry in motion. The ball went in the paint 3 times and out 3 times before Dee hits the three. We have the players to run a high post motion offense. Moving the defense side to side wears teams down. We need the twin towers to touch the ball every possession and the three guards need to run through the post to confuse and move the defense. I just do not understand why we cannot run this simple scheme
BTW, I love how BU's successes get written off as, "well that was because he had Ayo or TSJ, not because he's a good coach" but nobody points out that Hoiberg's only second weekend appearance he had a 2nd team All-American & Big 12 POY, 3rd team All-American, and a third guy who has played 544 career NBA games.
Illini in Italy
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I am SO glad that all the posters have identified all of the problems and issues with the team and provided solutions that will result in us going undefeated the rest of the season and for the next 10 years with the Loyalty hive hive mind serving as the new coaching staff.
Nebraska will never be a basketball giant. But Hoiberg gets the most from his players and he has a senior led team that could make noise this year. Like I have said, Nebraska’s ceiling should be our floor. They do not have the resources that we do. But Fred can flat out coach. They are a candidate to be a top 4 seed in the B1G tourney. They are quick to the ball and have a high BB IQ. For example, two times they called TO during a scramble or OOB play. We have the ball on the floor and we call nothing but they take the ball from us, call the TO and get it. They are heady. We make too many mental errors. We had the opportunity late to take the lead and what happens, Ben shoots a quick three after we score on the inside on the last few possessions. We just do not think. We react and it mostly costs us.
Illini in Italy
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His key comment “Y’all just don’t know basketball”
He’s a great recruiter.
A very good evaluator of talent
Below average at roster construction and X’s and O’s.
IMHO
keep in mind we have over a week to go before our next game...so we have multiple opportunities for much of the same
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Everything stated here correct. Agree completely with last paragraph. Since we need to run a very efficient offense to score a lot of points( close to 90+) to make up for our below average defense, the times our offense stagnates in the half court( which occurs quite often) really impacts our winning the game chances.
We saw glimpses of being able to penetrate the opponents set half court defense and get layups or kick outs for open shots when MP had his few opportunities but he seemed to not be ready to finish plays or play acceptable defense against the physicality and athleticism of the high major teams in the games he did get a bit of PT.
What bothers me is that we almost never have run a good out of bounds play, last possession play or schemed up a good defensive stop play at the end of a game in the BU era that I can recall. Admittedly, I'm still steamed we lost this game so maybe looking back with a biased and emotional viewpoint. I'm hoping Nebraska finishes really strong so this loss doesn't look too bad but consigning ourselves to a 4/5 seed at best in the tournament doesn't bode well for getting to the second round and that should be a reasonable goal every year given Brad's pay scale.
It's so frustrating to see in year 2 of a coaching change that Indiana is killing it in football and Michigan looks like a freight train in basketball and Florida won a natty in I think year 3 or 4 of Golden's tenure. I'll admit I'm thinking why not us.
It also speaks to the defensive liabilities of those players who were replaced.
Collins is in that same situation of great coach at mediocre program. Both have won Big Ten Coach of the Year because of it.
We're too good a program for that path to that award, which means Underwood competes with the likes of Painter and Izzo, which is why he hasn't won it.
This is my #1, #2 and #3 concern is with Brad. I'm not sure how money plays into all of this, but this roster/style of play.....I'm just not a huge fan of it. That said, I just want to win and if this is what does it, sign me up.
The Illinois radio crew pointed out that on at least one possession part of the team was in zone and the rest were not.
Why hold Hoiberg to such a low standard? Saying Nebraska will never be a basketball power is like saying Indiana will never be a football power. Nebraska has great fan support. A great stadium. If he’s so great why the limited success?
Told ya...don't blame him!
I agree. To say we played great and lost to Nebraska by 3 at home is somewhat confusing to me.
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