I want UNC and Roy to burn in hell, but I am sure as hell rooting for them to win the title. It'll net me a lot of money.
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TheFlyingIllini1317
- Chicago, IL
I really want to make a UNC African-American and Diaspora Studies shirt. In a similar way to an Illinois Engineering or Harvard Law shirt with some joke on the back saying how I'm fluent in Swahili.
Oh my God, I really started laughing when I saw that poll.
Jeeeeeeeeeesus, this guy is funny.
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TheFlyingIllini1317
- Chicago, IL
Whenever I see Adnarel post I think it is so cool that Hobbes is an Illini fan, then I realize I'm an idiot.
Mike
C-U Townie
There's a HUGE financial incentive to get rid of the NCAA.
But the benefit is obviosly long term.
Have to wonder for example, what is illinois lost revenue from getting "beat" in the 2005 final, because the NCAA was and still is too corrupt to controll bluebloods. UNC fraud and NCAA corruption have cost Illinois a lot of money. Would love Whitman to remind the NCAA how much money we have lost and ask them how they are going to make it right.
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Ransom Stoddard
Ordained Dudeist Priest
- Bloomington, IL
Sherman got my vote. And a lot of others.
Did anyone ever check the unc boards to see what kind of denial they are in or what bs excuses they are making?
I visited UNC Scouts and Rivals boards. They're in total denial, and the threads dedicated to the scandal are less than a page. They're not even talking about it because they know it means nothing and that it's going to go nowhere. The replies in the thread are exactly what you think they are:
"hahaha kensucky and dook so butthurt charles barkley is stupid"
"these are 18 y.o. men they can make their own decisions about their major"
"roy williams is a great man"
and so forth.
Hahaha I especially like the Roy Williams part. Luckiest coach in basketball.
Illinithad
- Northeast Missouri
Roy doesn't expect to be hit with anything, although if I recall correctly, wasn't it one of his players who brought the whole thing to light?
http://espn.go.com/mens-college-bas...pect-unc-hoops-get-hit-way-all-ncaa-sanctions
http://espn.go.com/mens-college-bas...pect-unc-hoops-get-hit-way-all-ncaa-sanctions
FeelYourPaign
- So Cal
I hope that posturing is half as irritating to the NCAA as it is to me.
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Roy's reading comprehension must be on the same level as his players. But he's probably right, UNC is the proverbial too big to fail. Worked wonders for Goldman-Sachs and the like in 2008.
It's just a further demonstration of the impossibility of the NCAA enforcing its own rules. They have neither the money, the mandate nor the authority to act as an accreditation body. If there is academic fraud taking place within the athletic department, that's one thing. If the University itself is in on it, you're stepping outside the NCAA's jurisdiction. Who is the NCAA to tell UNC the institution that they can't set up A's for no work sham classes? If UNC (more broadly, the State of North Carolina) wants to give out worthless degrees, that's pretty well their prerogative.
The proper authorities for a thing like that are the accreditation bodies, who did place UNC on probation, but in general have bigger fish to fry than some mickey-mouse nonsense with some athletes.
College sports is just fundamentally a system that cannot operate as designed. The pieces do not fit. Having the NCAA play an amorphous, mob justice, go-where-the-scandal-is hindsight machine seems manifestly unjust and the worst possible outcome to me personally, but it makes no less sense than any other way to shoehorn elite athletes into elite colleges to provide the labor for a billion dollar entertainment industry for free.
Agree with what you are saying for the most part. Housing sexual predators in your football program isn't inside the NCAA jurisdiction either, but that didn't stop them at PSU.
If I run the NCAA I put UNC on probation anyway. Then when they cry foul and fight it I'll drag it out as along as possible so they have to air their dirty laundry for all the world to see.
The solution is not to give the NCAA less power, but more power. Fewer rules, but put some real teeth behind the ones that are left.
You should probably forgive the powers that be, namely the NCAA head office and the power conference commissioners, for not seeing the financially booming business of Power Five athletics as a "problem" in need of a "solution".
All of the hair-pulling about college sports has only hurt the bottom line of actors who don't have the power to change anything about the system.
Illinithad
- Northeast Missouri
Sadly, at 46 years of age, for the first time in my life, I'm starting to lose hope that teams like Illinois (who aren't blue bloods) will ever get a fair shake. And when I'm convinced that's the case, I'll probably lose interest in college sports. And for my lifetime, college basketball has been my favorite sport. I'm really bummed about it.
Same here. 20 years ago (and even 10 years ago), it was the best sport out there. Now... parts of it kind of suck. Low parity, weak coaching (and good coaching not getting a fair shake), horrible officiating/rule interpretations, the transfers/Creanings, and an ever-growing emphasis on underclassmen and the names on the backs of jerseys.
Some of it's always been there, but these days we know more AND things have gotten worse. Just a bummer.
Mike
C-U Townie
Memory getting foggy, but wasn't it like 3000 "student athletes" and 30,000 fake classes at UNC over the years? That's playing a LOT of ineligible players at the very least. Fraud as well...
DanvIllini
Super Lurker
- Danville, IL
Lets say NCAA can't do anything about it. The accreditation bureau put them on probation?? What more do they need to do? They gave out fake degrees.. I just can't think of something more important to that entity than fake degrees.
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