Ohio State 42, Illinois 19 Postgame

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EmeraldCityIllini
Hereforit said:
Couple of thoughts with a few hours to reflect.

First, Bart Miller has taken a ton of flack but he’s doing yeoman’s work with that line. Kudos to him.

Second, the thing that is absolutely baffling to me about this Hauck D is how it has essentially neutralized our secondary when it was supposed to amplify it as a strength. More specially our corners. Bailey is obviously killing it but I’m blown away with the regression at corner. And I do get the lack of pass rush, to Bret’s postgame point, but that’s not the whole enchilada. The eye test with our corners is revealing.
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Good callout here.

He did last year, and while I noticed the line today being good despite the injuries, I didn’t think of him.

Nice shout. He deserves it
 
#131      
BrownTown
SescIllini said:
It definitely matters, but got beat bad at home by Duke that has 10 mil less in NIL than Illinois. Weren't going to beat OSU, but our D coach needs to be better. Our recruiting on defense libe needs to be better.
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I keep seeing this NIL and lack of talent complaining in terms of our defense.


Lack of talent didn’t put 9 men on the field in critical situation.

Nor did if cause the lack of communication, tackling, or 1 on 1 coverage on all world Jeremiah Smith in the red zone.

Kirk Ferentz isn’t bitching about money at the podium. His teams are still playing fundamentally sound and fighting every game to the last second. WITH LESS NIL.

Stop complaining about your money and start working about bringing about a disciplined approach to the game —especially on defense— because we haven’t seen that in Illinois since Walters left.
 
#133      
Fly Illini Fly!
BrownTown said:
Stop complaining about your money and start working about bringing about a disciplined approach to the game —especially on defense— because we haven’t seen that in Illinois since Walters left.
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The complaints aren't about money. They're about talent. (the two are related, but not exactly the same thing)

The talent Walters had is night and day compared to now.
 
#137      
EmeraldCityIllini
BrownTown said:
I keep seeing this NIL and lack of talent complaining in terms of our defense.


Lack of talent didn’t put 9 men on the field in critical situation.

Nor did if cause the lack of communication, tackling, or 1 on 1 coverage on all world Jeremiah Smith in the red zone.

Kirk Ferentz isn’t bitching about money at the podium. His teams are still playing fundamentally sound and fighting every game to the last second. WITH LESS NIL.

Stop complaining about your money and start working about bringing about a disciplined approach to the game —especially on defense— because we haven’t seen that in Illinois since Walters left.
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I'm fine with calling out the money, mostly because i think it gets eyeballs and attention to an issue that needs attention - us talking about it, is better than us not.

That said, we could be doing a whole lot more to make this a tad easier on ourselves and more enjoyable. To me, it a clear cut good example - the offense is well coached and performs. The defense isn't and doesn't perform.

I don't think that offense is top 20 talent wise in the sport. But I think they have the coaching and infrastructure and player identification/development, that Lunney performs. He finds good QB's, he finds good WR's (or has a good coach at that position), and he makes the backs work.
 
#139      
Dr.O
SescIllini said:
Not liking what I'm seeing from Hauck. See.s like we are 3 months away from where we should be now. Our experienced secondary is looking pedestrian at best. D line and linebackers are not BIG level.
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I agree. Hauck's defense might be effective in his previous conference or a DII or DIII football football programs. But I just don't see working at the B10 level.
 
#140      
Fly Illini Fly!
EmeraldCityIllini said:
I'm fine with calling out the money, mostly because i think it gets eyeballs and attention to an issue that needs attention - us talking about it, is better than us not.

That said, we could be doing a whole lot more to make this a tad easier on ourselves and more enjoyable. To me, it a clear cut good example - the offense is well coached and performs. The defense isn't and doesn't perform.

I don't think that offense is top 20 talent wise in the sport. But I think they have the coaching and infrastructure and player identification/development, that Lunney performs. He finds good QB's, he finds good WR's (or has a good coach at that position), and he makes the backs work.
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Good points. I do think the talent on the offense is drastically more than the defense.

Maybe not from a recruiting rank standpoint, but just in terms of having the dudes.
 
#145      
RML
Dr.O said:
I agree. Hauck's defense might be effective in his previous conference or a DII or DIII football football programs. But I just don't see working at the B10 level.
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Let's see how it's doing at the end of the season.
 
#147      
blackdog
#148      
MustangWally
therealmiket86 said:
I’m not a fan of Hauck but he’s not the guy out there missing tackles. We definitely are lacking in talent. I do think this defensive staff we brought over from Montana is pretty bad
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Wasn't Hauck a last second replacement for another hire who bolted before even taking the job? Maybe he's just a stopgap till we get the guy we want. Do we know what his contract looks like?
 
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