What about my post makes you think I’m not going to enjoy the season? Lol
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Ever heard of a suggestion. Apparently not.
Didn't say anything about your post saying you would enjoy the rest of the season. Nor did I say that you would enjoy would in general.
Just go back to telling us how hot streaks matter going into the NCAA tournament 'genius'.
No, I find it hard to believe there is zero correlation. Something doesn't have to happen 100% of the time to correlate. If there were zero correlation it would be equally likely that a team losing its first conference tourney game would win the national championship as a team winning its conference tournament. Clearly that's not the case. It would be equally likely that a team losing 5 straight going into the tourney would make the final four as a team winning 5 straight going into the tourney. So provide the data that shows that, since you're so confident in your assesment.
these points seem to conflict. No champion lost before reaching semis, yet somehow you equate that to meaning they didn’t go into the tournament hot? Do they have to lose in the quarter finals of the conf tourney to be hot?
He stated previously that being if you are not eliminated from your conf tourney before the semifinals then you’re not a hot team
I don't. There isn't any definitive correlation that says a hot team going into the NCAA tournament is consistently successful and that a team in a slump isn't. You just proved that fact with the stats YOU provided.
If you think those stats prove your proposition you clearly don't understand correlation as a concept.
They didn't. Going into the tournament hot means you didn't lose. Not hard to figure out except for you.
They didn't prove your proposition. That's the point. My point is to disprove.
So in order to win your conference tournament, you have to be bounced before the semifinals?
What are you talking about man, just stop. You make no sense and never have since I've seen you post in here.
Since 1993, every champion has AT LEAST made their conference tourney semis. In the 27 years, 25 official champions (one vacated one cancelled tournament), 12 also won their conference championship. Considering at most large bids come from power 5 conferences, and that every champion has come from a power 5 conferences, I would say it’s fair to suggest winning the conference tournament has a correlation with success in the tournament.
Is it 100%? No. But there is some data to show that, if 4 teams make it from a power 5 conference, and there’s just shy of 50% chance a conference tourney winner won the tournament (historically), then odds are higher for that team than for each other team from their conference. Here’s the link.
How recent eventual March Madness men's champions did in their conference tournaments
Here's how every DI men's basketball national champion has done in its conference tournament since 1994.
www.ncaa.com
It notes in their that it’s not a pure 100% correlation, but that conference tourney winners do perform better.
And to specifically explain this point. You said that a team not being bounced before the semis means they didn’t win their conference tournament. Think you are confusing getting bounced prior to semifinals with getting bounced in the semifinals.
Awesome my guy. This has already been posted and I already responded that this means nothing about hot streaks at the end of the season means tourney success.Since 1993, every champion has AT LEAST made their conference tourney semis. In the 27 years, 25 official champions (one vacated one cancelled tournament), 12 also won their conference championship. Considering at most large bids come from power 5 conferences, and that every champion has come from a power 5 conferences, I would say it’s fair to suggest winning the conference tournament has a correlation with success in the tournament.
Is it 100%? No. But there is some data to show that, if 4 teams make it from a power 5 conference, and there’s just shy of 50% chance a conference tourney winner won the tournament (historically), then odds are higher for that team than for each other team from their conference. Here’s the link.
How recent eventual March Madness men's champions did in their conference tournaments
Here's how every DI men's basketball national champion has done in its conference tournament since 1994.
It notes in their that it’s not a pure 100% correlation, but that conference tourney winners do perform better.
So you don’t understand how half (if we count Louisville who won both) of teams winning the tournament could ever narrowed down to a pool of 5 conference winners each year shows a correlation?
I'm just going to chalk all of this to you are obsessed with me. Let it go man. You aren't going to change my mind no matter how many times you keep responding with this nonsense.
I just want to know what you believe defines correlation and what data you can cite to disprove the theory.
I’ve provided data that half of the winners in the last 26 tournaments also won their conf tournament. That shows a correlation.
And to be clear - I’m not obsessed with you, I just genuinely want to understand what you are seeing to suggest no correlation between performance in the last 5-10 games of the season and tournament performance.
That does not show correlation. Winning conference tournament is not the reason teams won the championship in the past. It was they were good teams. You could argue that O$U and Illinois did more harm to themselves last year by playing hard games right before the tournament
I would say your seed and rank have a higher correlation to tournament success than winning your conference tournament
My gosh, run this argument into the ground already. It's dead.
Correlation does not equal causation.
I’m not saying winning the conference tournament increases your chances. The data shows that the conference winners perform better in the tournament. I think it’s likely because those teams are better and playing better and thus winning games - but that isn’t what’s being said here.
Apologize for my part in clogging the thread. Let’s kick scum while they are down tomorrow.
I'm obsessed with you bootsy!
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