I'm really curious to find what exactly his system is?
My health club used to have a pretty good and consistent 6 am run....every once in a while I'd get lucky enough to have this 6-5 Ukranian and 6-4 former minor leaguer on my team...usually there would be some newbie coming in and trying to act like he was Bob Cousey....I'd tell him "a bad shot is better than a pretty turnover with those guys on our team."
I guess I didn't recognize John Groce when he came to play with us and take my advice as his offensive philosophy.