Pregame: Illinois at Iowa, Saturday, November 18th, 2:30pm CT, FS1

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Question is who gives us the best chance to get 16 points?

I would roll with Paddock.
Iowa wins a lotta games via turnovers. We can't afford to give up ANY. I would start Paddock, too, but his receivers aren't gonna be wide open.

Iowa doesn't pick off back shoulder passes, do they? I'm not sure anyone does. Paddock looked like Aaron Rodgers yesterday.
 
#79      
I'm concerned that Iowa scored 22 on Rutgers. I'm guessing they could score 28-35 on our D that played yesterday. I don't see us scoring that many points on Iowa. So, someone tell me why I shouldn't be worried.
 
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BZuppke

Plainfield
This is a tough game but if they have a weakness on D it is play action and accurate passing. I also noticed the PSU QB running from time to time was something that they couldn’t stop. We’re not going to run the ball down their throats.

On D we have to avoid the one thing that they do well: Tight end splitting the seam for big gains. Also need to pressure the backfield. Note to Henry - timely blitzes will help. Don’t be a scared cat.
 
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"Paddocked" (v, av) a personal and/or social condition created when an authority figure or institution chooses convention over dynamic or dominant erupt.
 
#83      
I would almost never advocate in favor of replacing your season-long starting QB with the backup QB because the starter was injured and the backup came in a played well.

The only scenario I could envision where you must do that is when the backup comes in cold on the final drive, converts a long 4th, and then thows the game-winning TD on a dime with 50 seconds left. And then the following week breaks the record for most passing yards for an Illinois QB at Memorial Stadium, and the second most in Illini history, and throws a walk-off TD in overtime.

Sometimes the circumstances are just too crazy not to compel you to break convention. There’s just no way to send Paddock back to the bench now.

And in a weird way you’re almost protecting Altmyer by doing that. If Altmyer goes back in as starter and struggles even the slightest, the calls to pull him will be deafening. And the worst case scenario would be that Altmyer throws a few picks or can’t get the offense going and gets pulled mid-game. It’s just not a good situation for a young QB who is still developing.
100%. In this case and with this opponent coming up, the prudent decision is to stay with Paddock. Iowa uglies up the game and will make our offense look bad. Don’t put Luke in that position now.
 
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I'm concerned that Iowa scored 22 on Rutgers. I'm guessing they could score 28-35 on our D that played yesterday. I don't see us scoring that many points on Iowa. So, someone tell me why I shouldn't be worried.
It was 6-0 going into the fourth quarter when the Rutgers defense just wore out after their offense only managed seven first downs for the game.
RU's second-half possessions went like this:
7 plays, punt
3 and out
3 and out
3 and out
1 play interception
3 and out
Their last first down came two minutes into the second half.
 
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skyIdub

Winged Warrior
Iowa's defense is not impenetrable. Several teams have put up 200+ passing yards and 300+ total yards. MSU, PSU, PU....

John Paddock gives us our best chance vs. this defense. As mentioned earlier, you make Iowa prep for both.
 
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MustangWally

Mayfield
#93      
The only reason I can see starting Altmyer is his legs. Paddock killed you a few times today cause he had little mobility. Luke gives you that. Also we might have the need for a QB who's running around a lot unless we think our OL will dominate in pass protection against Iowa's vaunted defense. I think the bigger question marks are we need feagin back and at mostly full health and Bryant too. We need all the weapons we can get against Iowa. Love and Isiah are great of course but we need everyone.
Did you see the last play of the game?
 
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This is the one for me. One, paddock seems predictable (at least from an OL protector’s standpoint) in his movement in the pocket. Luke seems like he just tries to navigate it to find an escape route if he can’t find a pass. Lately, given how much he’s been hit, it seems like he is spending too much mental bandwidth on identifying that escape valve and not enough on reads.

Paddock has neither issue (at least as I see them) and it allows OL to block more predictably to avoid potential holds and spend less time engaged. Both make for a better OL performance.
 
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skyIdub

Winged Warrior
This is the one for me. One, paddock seems predictable (at least from an OL protector’s standpoint) in his movement in the pocket. Luke seems like he just tries to navigate it to find an escape route if he can’t find a pass. Lately, given how much he’s been hit, it seems like he is spending too much mental bandwidth on identifying that escape valve and not enough on reads.

Paddock has neither issue (at least as I see them) and it allows OL to block more predictably to avoid potential holds and spend less time engaged. Both make for a better OL performance.

It's comfort and confidence. John has both right now. Luke is up and down. Just go back and watch some highlights (good and bad) of Luke. He is hesitant after making some bad mistakes earlier. Watch his reads, his feet, and his pocket presence.

You can look at countless other QB stories of guys with less than average arms and athleticism...and they just get it done. Tom Brady is the God King of this.

JP doesn't need his legs because he get's rid of the ball...and he's putting it in the right places.

If Luke plays with the same comfort and confidence as JP has rn.....he's probably the better overall QB. This is surely what spring and fall practice showed.
Now we are 3/4 of the way through the season and JP is displaying the comfort and confidence of a winning QB.

If Luke starts Sat....I will be gobsmacked.
 
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