Pregame: Illinois at Maryland, Saturday, February 17th, 4:30pm CT, FOX

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Illini2010-11

Sugar Grove
So we need to win by 1
Or win safely (not sure this board can handle such a tight game) and hope they beat NW and IU at home and win one of their road games at Rutgers or Penn State. Of course, a Maryland win at Wisconsin would certainly drive them up.

So...let's win by 10+

Though this does look much better with MD at 75:

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#103      
He is. Brad knows he is....BRad put the freshman in for him as a get your head out of your you know what. That's all it is....coaches do this all the time. Brads done it a ton in his 6+ seasons here.
How quickly people forget about the Tyler underwood experience midway through the first half.
 
#104      
Maybe it was my imagination, but did we blitz a ball screen against Michigan? Could we mix more of that into our defense going forward? Coleman certainly has the foot speed to blitz and recover.
 
#106      
Maybe it was my imagination, but did we blitz a ball screen against Michigan? Could we mix more of that into our defense going forward? Coleman certainly has the foot speed to blitz and recover.
We switched less against Michigan. More fighting through ball screens. As Brad said you are going to get clipped in the ball screen fight through it and recover like Trent, Andres, Monte did.
 
#107      

blackdog

Champaign
Tough pass but rather see that than a lazy pass, traveling, stepping out of bounds, moving screen, etc. If he connected, easy two points.

I don't really think a telegraphed bounce pass through traffic to your big on a break with no numbers advantage is the way to go. Pull that back out and run the offense. The risk/reward is not worth it.
 
#108      
Interesting comment on TSJ rebounding by Brad


Given TSJ size and athleticism he could get more. TSJ is getting 4.2 rbg in 33 minutes

Luke gets 4.3 rbg in just 20 minutes but you see him fighting on every play
 
#109      

ChiefGritty

Chicago, IL
Interesting comment on TSJ rebounding by Brad


Given TSJ size and athleticism he could get more. TSJ is getting 4.2 rbg in 33 minutes

Luke gets 4.3 rbg in just 20 minutes but you see him fighting on every play
I don't want to disagree with BU, but I think the most devastating open court player in college basketball ought to be leaking out on the break at every opportunity rather than staying back to crash the boards on an already great rebounding team.
 
#111      
We switched less against Michigan. More fighting through ball screens. As Brad said you are going to get clipped in the ball screen fight through it and recover like Trent, Andres, Monte did.

Looking at Kenpom, right now this is our worst defense ranking-wise since the 18-19 season.

Any reason why we changed our defensive philosophy so drastically from what has proven to work in the B1G? I understand that our roster makeup means we can be one of the few teams in the country to switch everything, but we also do have the dawgs who can fight through screens (TSJ, Harmon). Why go away from what has worked well for several seasons....?

Just curious because IMO switching everything on defense is fine and all (especially against great outside shooting teams) but once it's scouted out....can be abused indefinitely against us to get the opponent's preferred matchup on the weaker defender (has happened to us several times this year since early December).
 
#112      
Looking at Kenpom, right now this is our worst defense ranking-wise since the 18-19 season.

Any reason why we changed our defensive philosophy so drastically from what has proven to work in the B1G? I understand that our roster makeup means we can be one of the few teams in the country to switch everything, but we also do have the dawgs who can fight through screens (TSJ, Harmon). Why go away from what has worked well for several seasons....?

Just curious because IMO switching everything on defense is fine and all (especially against great outside shooting teams) but once it's scouted out....can be abused indefinitely against us to get the opponent's preferred matchup on the weaker defender (has happened to us several times this year since early December).
We were 8th in the country defensively this year before TJ was out and that was with the switching everything style....
 
#113      

frozenrope9190

Aurora, IL
Are they gonna go balls out on stopping Young? He's the one real threat to go nuts and keep them competitive in a low scoring game. It was just too darn easy for him last game.
 
#114      
Are they gonna go balls out on stopping Young? He's the one real threat to go nuts and keep them competitive in a low scoring game. It was just too darn easy for him last game.
We didn't have Shannon last game. Will he guard Young? We need to either slow Young or Reese down.
 
#116      
We were definitely better at it for that stretch of ~10 games, however, many of those games were against poor competition. Marquette, FAU, and Tennessee really the only legitimate offenses we faced during then, the latter 2 of which we weren't as good defensively against
 
#117      
Looking at Kenpom, right now this is our worst defense ranking-wise since the 18-19 season.

Any reason why we changed our defensive philosophy so drastically from what has proven to work in the B1G? I understand that our roster makeup means we can be one of the few teams in the country to switch everything, but we also do have the dawgs who can fight through screens (TSJ, Harmon). Why go away from what has worked well for several seasons....?

Just curious because IMO switching everything on defense is fine and all (especially against great outside shooting teams) but once it's scouted out....can be abused indefinitely against us to get the opponent's preferred matchup on the weaker defender (has happened to us several times this year since early December).
Personally don't think we have the "dawgs who can fight through screens" as much this year. It's not all about being dawgs... it's also about physically being smaller/able to squeeze through tighter spaces. Trent was elite at that because he was quick, slim, and had the conditioning and work ethic. Our guys now might have the work ethic, but they're larger for their position for the most part (Domask, TJ, Rodgers)
 
#119      
TS will make life miserable for Young.BU asking for shut down defense and rebounding from Terrence,think he pleases coach here.TS rebounding,defensive force are big part of future sucess.Also think 2 big lineup might be the ticket,let Dain mug Reese who is awfull at the stripe.ILL
 
#120      
I think the light bulb is starting to go off in Dain's head. He is realizing there are limited opportunities for slow 5's that don't pass, play defenses outside of the paint and only post up.

I am excited about see Dain run the floor and not play drop coverage all the time. He will never be Coleman but he could learn a lot watching Zack Edey pass out the double team and hustle for rebounds

He also could learn how to help on defense by blocking shots from people other than his man.

Needs to drop another 25 lbs to get faster and more agile.
 
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#121      
Just a point in terms of Hawk defending opposing centers. In the last five games they are 19/59. Not sure BU sees it as a problem.
 
#122      
Interesting comment on TSJ rebounding by Brad


Given TSJ size and athleticism he could get more. TSJ is getting 4.2 rbg in 33 minutes

Luke gets 4.3 rbg in just 20 minutes but you see him fighting on every play
Rebounds are a highly positional stat and have large diminishing returns. Terrence plays a bunch of his minutes with either Ty or Quincy or both and they grab a bunch of the rebounds. I've seen Brad mention this about Terrence but I think his rebounding is fine.
 
#123      
Rebounds are a highly positional stat and have large diminishing returns. Terrence plays a bunch of his minutes with either Ty or Quincy or both and they grab a bunch of the rebounds. I've seen Brad mention this about Terrence but I think his rebounding is fine.
Some times we go small ball with Luke, Coleman, Justin, Marcus and TSJ. In this lineup TSJ needs to help more on the boards as niether Luke or Marcus are big leapers.

Also when we go 5 out then nobody is trying to offensive rebound. TSJ could do more in this situation.
 
#124      
The article literally quotes BU as saying "defensive rebounds"
my recollection from listening to presser after the game: I 'heard' offensive rebounds since he mentioned or implied putbacks and/or getting fouled.
 
#125      
Rebounds are a highly positional stat and have large diminishing returns. Terrence plays a bunch of his minutes with either Ty or Quincy or both and they grab a bunch of the rebounds. I've seen Brad mention this about Terrence but I think his rebounding is fine.
Rebounding is almost entirely about effort. There are balls to be rebounded all over the place -- near the rim and on out to the three point line. Going after the ball involves moving your feet (like on defense), anticipation (like an outfielder in baseball, you can get really really good at reading shot trajectories and playing the odds on resulting carom direction), and willingness to battle physically. It's about want to.
 
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