Pregame: Illinois at Minnesota, Saturday, February 20th, 2:30pm CT, FOX

Status
Not open for further replies.
#52      
Get Robbins in foul trouble and this one goes pretty much like the last one.

Let Robbins get comfortable and start hitting some threes and we will be in for another fight.
 
#54      
I'd be shocked if we won this game

I believe there is a psychology in certain personalities that like to assume the worst. That way, they are either right (for being right) or happy (because their team won and that's what they want). I don't know that it's what is happening here, but it's just hard to know when there isn't much reasoning to be seen.
 
#55      
Winged Warrior
FT's and turnovers. Fix it and we are a legit FF team. As we stand currently? I think we struggle to beat a team (like Baylor) that will defend us hard for a full 40 minutes. Those teams are in your face, so you will get fouled and there will be no easy passing lanes. 70% FT's and ~10 turnovers and I like our chances.
That's what you will see in the Sweet 16.
 
#56      
Mn is very good at home. I don't think it is Robbins that would beat us, but have to control Carr. Trent will have to lock him down. They are a very tough team to beat at home. Other than Robbins they don't have anyone else to control Kofi. It will be a close game. Have to win because we go into a stretch of tough games. Go Illini!
 
#57      
Carr is going to get his 20 points on like a billion shots. It's Robbins I'm worried about. He has elevated his game since the last time we saw them.
 
#58      
Yeah, of course, but...meh. If it was a post with some actual insightful opinion on why it's being chocked up as a loss, ok. But it's not. It's the first post of this pre game thread with only two reasons...the one's I mentioned...to make it.

How on earth could you say you'd be "shocked" to beat a team you blew out just two months ago? Not logical.
We'll likely be favored by Vegas as well.

Agreed, but here is some insight...simply because this Minnesota team is crazy.

According to Torvik, Minnesota is 8 in the country at home and 119 away from home. That's ridiculous and almost unexplainable considering there are no fans. I mean, I understand being more comfortable at home but not by that much. We are basically playing a completely different team, so that first game can be thrown out the window. And I'm looking through the stats and can't find anything specific that makes them so much different on the road vs at home. They do almost everything very well at home, and almost everything very poorly on the road.

So I think it is pretty fair to say a loss is expected, unfortunately. But we do have an extra day of rest over them. I kinda hope they beat IU tonight. Minnesota is right on the bubble and maybe that would make them a little less desperate against us.
 
#59      
Winged Warrior
Agreed, but here is some insight...simply because this Minnesota team is crazy.

According to Torvik, Minnesota is 8 in the country at home and 119 away from home. That's ridiculous and almost unexplainable considering there are no fans. I mean, I understand being more comfortable at home but not by that much. We are basically playing a completely different team, so that first game can be thrown out the window. And I'm looking through the stats and can't find anything specific that makes them so much different on the road vs at home. They do almost everything very well at home, and almost everything very poorly on the road.

So I think it is pretty fair to say a loss is expected, unfortunately. But we do have an extra day of rest over them. I kinda hope they beat IU tonight. Minnesota is right on the bubble and maybe that would make them a little less desperate against us.

Yes, this is not a troll type post. This is a much better way of explaining an "expected" loss. I would term it as a possible loss, as again I assume we will be favored.

We have a proven formula to beat this team. Execute and it's a W. Struggle to execute = L.

They are not a better team, and nothing that happens in this game will "shock" me. Ok well, I mean, I guess if DMFW goes off for 30/10/5, or Trent dunks over Robbins and Carr, color me shocked...but this is going to be another typical B1G meat grinder.

Ok, I would also be shocked if the cardboard fans all suddenly stripped to reveal the cardboard Orange Krush. That would be pretty shockingly epic.
 
#61      
Every time there is a foul on Kofi and he has to shoot free throws, you can just see him tense up. (So do I !) He usually walks down the court with a team member, and I always think he is saying "Can you shoot these for me?"
Obviously I’d like to see Kofi hit a higher percentage of his FTs, but to be honest I kind of figure any thing above 50% is gravy. Not ideal I know, but call it the huge man/Shaq syndrome. It is the shooters that miss FT that kill me. Last night Kofi hit 50% (3 of 6). Last night, 4 players shot the same percentage or worse — Ayo (1-2), Miller (1-2), Curbelo (0-3) and DMW (1-3). It hurts that Kofi’s volume of FTs is usually larger than everyone else’s, but these other guys have to hit their FTs. I love DMW, but he’s barely shooting better from the line than Kofi. And Curbelo missing 3 is inexcusable.
 
#62      
Agreed, but here is some insight...simply because this Minnesota team is crazy.

According to Torvik, Minnesota is 8 in the country at home and 119 away from home. That's ridiculous and almost unexplainable considering there are no fans. I mean, I understand being more comfortable at home but not by that much. We are basically playing a completely different team, so that first game can be thrown out the window. And I'm looking through the stats and can't find anything specific that makes them so much different on the road vs at home. They do almost everything very well at home, and almost everything very poorly on the road.

So I think it is pretty fair to say a loss is expected, unfortunately. But we do have an extra day of rest over them. I kinda hope they beat IU tonight. Minnesota is right on the bubble and maybe that would make them a little less desperate against us.

Thanks for posting. I did not know that Torvik had that ranking capability for home/away. He has Illini favored by 3 and a 59% win probablity.
 
Last edited:
#63      
North Bethesda, Maryland
I think we got this one, but it's anyone's guess. Hope y'all enjoying having power. Here in Austin, going on 2 days without
Good luck buddy, that is no fun. Went without for a week once, and lived in an 8th floor condo back then.
 
#64      
Paducah, Ky
ddde352b5b95e58ffa8ab481ce4938fa--walken-christopher-funny-posts.jpg


Chillin out thinking about the upcoming game, listening on Spotify to ""Little Feat ""Waiting for Columbus Live , circa 1977 and pondering what we need to do to erase those lull's and pauses we seem to be falling into lately...

We have the players and staff that could go far this year...i agree in the dance some of our faults (FTS and TO"S) might disrupt the season and keep us wondering what it takes to finally get a championship...I gotta believe that is on the mind of everyone involved and we seem determined to get there....

I guess I'll go.....

Illini 74
goofers 66
 
#65      
Baltimore, MD
I'd say that containing Carr is the key as he averages 22+ ppg at home and only about 12 ppg on the road, but when Maryland beat Minny in the barn, Carr had 25. Maryland just shut down everyone else though and held Minny under 50 points. I think we're capable of something similar, like we did with Iowa. Garza got his points, but we shut almost everyone else down (Wiescamp had a decent game, but wasn't super efficient).
 
#66      
I think we match up better with the Gophers than most. Carr is difficult to stay in front of, and Robbins is really big. If you can contain those two, Minny doesn't have a lot of other options. Fortunately, we have some of the best on-ball defenders in the league, and the biggest of the really big bigs.

We probably won't win by 20+ like in December, but I like our chances.

Additionally, we have Ayo and no one else does. So that's a nice fallback plan.
 
#67      
We do not match up well with their #3 guy, Brandon Johnson. Furthermore, being from Thornton he has an axe to grind.
 
#68      
BU:1 Trash cans:0
Chicago
We do not match up well with their #3 guy, Brandon Johnson. Furthermore, being from Thornton he has an axe to grind.
Johnson is really good. I like his game. I think he's the real heart of that team. When he gets going, everyone else plays better and with more energy.
 
#73      
His axe was awfully dull in the first game.....0 pts, 4 rebs
Me thinks you have the wrong Johnson....he was actually 8/8 in the first Illini/MN game and he only played 18 minutes because of injury.
 
Status
Not open for further replies.