Pregame: Illinois at Northwestern, Thursday, January 7th, 8:00pm CT, BTN

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How does a Nebraska beach house work? Is that like on a pond or a river?

Also, I can't be the only one begging Da'Monte to take a few more 3s. I know his percentage is up because he doesn't take a shot if he's not feeling it, but it feels to me while I'm screaming at my TV that he has some pretty open shots and turns them down. It feels to me that Trent, Adam, and Ayo all take shots where they're fairly wide open but Da'Monte will pass those shots up unless he's got miles and miles of distance between him and his defender, and even then it seems like if the balls didn't connect just write in his hands he'll still pass up an open shot attempt.

Maybe I'm looking at this backward and I should be begging Trent and Adam to be more selective in their shots and I should be begging the whole team to pass the ball around more to create more insanely wide open shots so that all 3 of those guys can be shooting at 67+%?

I think Trent and Adam are taking far more contested shots than DMFW for different reasons. Trent seems to end up with the ball in his hands late in possessions that haven't given the primary option a good look, especially when he's the primary ball handler and Belo is on the bench. Adam, just IMO, is taking quick shots earlier in the possession and not necessarily when we have numbers. Also, as good as DMFW has been from 3, I think his rep as the 4th or 5th scoring option for the team still sticks. That's all completely non-data driven - just what I think I've seen this year.
 
#102      
How does a Nebraska beach house work? Is that like on a pond or a river?

Also, I can't be the only one begging Da'Monte to take a few more 3s. I know his percentage is up because he doesn't take a shot if he's not feeling it, but it feels to me while I'm screaming at my TV that he has some pretty open shots and turns them down. It feels to me that Trent, Adam, and Ayo all take shots where they're fairly wide open but Da'Monte will pass those shots up unless he's got miles and miles of distance between him and his defender, and even then it seems like if the balls didn't connect just write in his hands he'll still pass up an open shot attempt.

Maybe I'm looking at this backward and I should be begging Trent and Adam to be more selective in their shots and I should be begging the whole team to pass the ball around more to create more insanely wide open shots so that all 3 of those guys can be shooting at 67+%?
And the beach houses are mostly surrounded by corn and feed lots. We have two rivers. One you can wade across half the year, and the other one I wouldn't get in without wearing a full dry-suit.
 
#103      
IIRC - need to average 2.5 3PM per game for the NCAA list. DMW is at 1.7. I remember when Aaron Jordan was lighting it up and he wasn't recognized because he was making 2.1 a game. a brief review confirms everyone on the NCAA list has hit 2.5 per game, which is kinda stupid when the leader has only played one game...
Agreed - that's a really pointless filter, especially without a minimum number of games.
 
#104      
I think Trent and Adam are taking far more contested shots than DMFW for different reasons. Trent seems to end up with the ball in his hands late in possessions that haven't given the primary option a good look, especially when he's the primary ball handler and Belo is on the bench. Adam, just IMO, is taking quick shots earlier in the possession and not necessarily when we have numbers. Also, as good as DMFW has been from 3, I think his rep as the 4th or 5th scoring option for the team still sticks. That's all completely non-data driven - just what I think I've seen this year.
I don't know if they're called plays or just when he shakes open but they seem to come at important times, if he would back them up wow that would open up everything. Also I think that Trent defers too much. Agreed he gets it late alot.
 
#105      
Our offense is at its floor and we are still the 6th best offense according to KenPom. We can only get better.

Take off those orange colored glasses and we could definitely get worse.

-Ayo regresses to last years 3 pt % (41% to 31%)
-Damonte regresses to last years 3pt % (68% to 31%)
-Trent didn't shoot well last year and that will continue
-MIller is a freshman and won't find his shot consistently this year
-teams start fouling Kofi at a higher rate, especially late in games, and he continues struggling with FTs

I agree that our offense can get even better...but it can definitely regress as well.
 
#106      
I don't know if they're called plays or just when he shakes open but they seem to come at important times, if he would back them up wow that would open up everything. Also I think that Trent defers too much. Agreed he gets it late alot.

I think Williams makes more shots because he very rarely takes a bad shot., a off-balance shot, a forced shot, or a heavily contested. shot. He takes smart shots.
 
#107      
Take off those orange colored glasses and we could definitely get worse.

-Ayo regresses to last years 3 pt % (41% to 31%)
-Damonte regresses to last years 3pt % (68% to 31%)
-Trent didn't shoot well last year and that will continue
-MIller is a freshman and won't find his shot consistently this year
-teams start fouling Kofi at a higher rate, especially late in games, and he continues struggling with FTs

I agree that our offense can get even better...but it can definitely regress as well.
Nope, Damonte will definitely shoot at least 68% from 3 for the season. Why you gotta be so negative?
 
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blackdog

Champaign
I think Williams makes more shots because he very rarely takes a bad shot., a off-balance shot, a forced shot, or a heavily contested. shot. He takes smart shots.

And last game one of his 3s was a catch and shoot in transition while he was on the move, wasnt a good shot. Hes not a Duncan Robinson type shooter where he's going to come off screens and fire away, he really needs to be pretty close to stationary on the catch to make sure his mechanics are good.
 
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Wildcats before facing the Illini

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Wildcats after the Illini get done taming them
 
#110      

Retro62

North Bethesda, Maryland
Is it really only Wednesday? Geez...it‘s felt like Summer waiting for the season to begin
 
#111      
Is it really only Wednesday? Geez...it‘s felt like Summer waiting for the season to begin

I KNOW. My girlfriend is a (COVID ICU!) nurse, and unfortunately she has to miss a lot of games that start before 8:00 pm on days that she works. She has had bad luck lately, but she now has our next four games off and she has been so anxiously waiting for this NU game, haha. It really has felt like forever since we last played, and it's been like four days. I'm spoiled. :)
 
#112      

Dan

Admin
Underwood: Tyler got cleared for practice after the Indiana game. Ben is back in practice and he's looked great.

Underwood on No. 4 spot in NET ranking: "I think it rewarded us for strength of schedule. If Duke moves up, it becomes potentially even higher. ...I'd rather be there ... there's only three other spots I'd rather be."

Underwood: Miller and Curbelo were two of top-3 defensive gradeouts this week

Underwood asked about reasons for No. 6 offensive efficiency: "We can pass."


 
#113      
And last game one of his 3s was a catch and shoot in transition while he was on the move, wasnt a good shot. Hes not a Duncan Robinson type shooter where he's going to come off screens and fire away, he really needs to be pretty close to stationary on the catch to make sure his mechanics are good.
Agreed. I think Miller is a more natural shooter. I think if he finds his rhythm , range and confidence I could easily see him getting 20 a night. He has a shot which particularly difficult to defend.
 
#114      
I think Williams makes more shots because he very rarely takes a bad shot., a off-balance shot, a forced shot, or a heavily contested. shot. He takes smart shots.
This is exactly correct. He is almost exclusively a dagger shooter because defense collapses around a driver like Ayo or Curbelo. His defender helps and he's there to step into a kicked out 3.

He might get more of the big guys could kick out from the post on occasion. (I'm a little annoyed how bad they are at this)
 
#115      

wcrasta2

Class of 2017, Comp Eng
San Francisco, CA
Looks like it's going to be about a 7 point spread
 
#116      
Looks like it's going to be about a 7 point spread

Probably about right? We look to be the clearly better team on paper, but a few factors might push the line in NU's favor:

- They are at home. Even without fans, I don't buy there isn't a serious home court advantage. Things like familiarity, comfort and lack of travel fatigue don't just go away.
- They have traditionally seemed to up their game when they play us, especially in Evanston.
- They are backed into a corner coming off of two losses and being booted from the top 25, and they have proven they can beat good teams. Desperate and capable is a bad combo for opponents.

With that said, I think we win by about 8-9.
 
#122      

JFGsCoffeeMug

BU:1 Trash cans:0
Chicago
Ayo and Kofi
Both make trimmed list of 25 mid season list.
B1G with six players on the list.

Gonzaga with three.
Illinois and Villanova with two.
 
#123      

TMC999

Not Iowa
Correct, opened at -6
This feels right. But I wish I didn’t.
I hope Kofi goes off versus the lab rats. I think if he dunks 2-3 times early on, maybe rattles the rim for effect, their front court may curl up in the fetal position by the first media time out. That’ll bode well. #BeatTheNerds
 
#125      
Even without fans, I don't buy there isn't a serious home court advantage.
Most models, most years, have it around 3 pts. IIRC, the range is 2.8 to 3.1 points although I didn't do any serious research. This season, the computers put it right at 2. That feels about right to me --home gym should be worth something, and refs might feel some bias to the home team despite the lack of large crowds.

2 points may not seem like much, but if you look at the swing (+2 home, -2 away) it's obviously important.
 
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