Pregame: Illinois at Penn State, Saturday, January 3rd, 6:00pm CT, BTN

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I said this earlier, and I’ll say it again. Limit live ball turnovers, and Illinois wins this game comfortably. Monday was the first time I watched PSU, and the only time they did anything was as when they got live ball turnovers. Take those away, and they were inept.
For certain, the catalyst for this team to win any game the rest of the season is "minimal (translation single digit) turnovers"....especially since BU does not emphasize creating opponent turnovers. I would also add of equal importance is focused and efficient defensive effort which has been lacking against good teams yet so very necessary.
 
#155      
Those trusses were probably made at Bethlehem Steel.

My quick and dirty research suggests it might be one of, if not the oldest, college basketball arenas still standing. Michigan State moved from Jenison (opened 1940) to Breslin in the late 80s, but it still exists on campus as far as I can tell by my limited Googling.
 
#157      
Hec Edmundson Pavilion in Seattle was built in 1927, the same year as the Palestra. I love these "dumps."
 
#158      
Ann Arbor is a Detroit Suburbs and only 45 minutes from the Palace(now little Caesars). That is absolutely not a neutral game.

Just like I'd argue Illinois playing against Alabama is not a neutral game. It Illinois was playing Wisconsin or Michigan at the UC then yeah it could be neutral.

To me, neutral should be the crowd/location doesn't favor one team.

Like Nashville for Tennessee is a pseudo home game and same thing with playing Alabama in Birmingham.
Right, but "pseudo home games" have always been considered neutral by the Selection Committee as far back as anyone can remember. I'm sympathetic to your argument, but this would be a massive change, and it would absolutely kill the incentive for teams like Illinois to schedule games at the UC. Part of the appeal is how it affects the Quad classifications. Our Texas Tech win has flipped from Quad 1 to Quad 2 and back a few times because we need them in the top 30 of the NET ... if we had played them at the UC, it would be safe Quad 1 all year by virtue of TTU being in the top 50.
 
#159      
I have a good friend who lives in Bethlehem PA. He goes to occasional games at the Palestra. He tells me the place is a dump.
What do people even mean by "dump" in this case? If they're the types who would also call Wrigley or Fenway a "dump" because they don't have the amenities of SoFi, I simply cannot take their opinions seriously. History and tradition should be a factor in everyone's opinion of a stadium/arena, and if someone can't see past the more superficial things like the bathrooms or concourses seeming old/outdated compared to newer ones, that's just ridiculous, IMO.

Memorial Stadium will not be a "dump" compared to Northwestern's new, soulless stadium. It will always have history and tradition that NU's new facility will never be able to replicate, and the Palestra seems like one of the crown jewels of hoops to me! No disrespect to your friend, of course, but I am passionate about celebrating classic stadiums/arenas and appreciating them. ;)
 
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#160      
I’d love to be able to bet on it, but the state of Illinois hates fun lol.
 
#162      
Just a sidenote RE: this neutral site conversation, I hate when TV announcers only ever mention the distance from campuses, as if there are zero fans of a team outside of its college town, lol. Who gives a crap how far Champaign is physically from the United Center when there are 220,000+ Illinois alumni and several thousand non-alum fans (like Fighter!) in the Chicago Area? The physical distance is only so relevant at that point.
 
#163      
What do people even mean by "dump" in this case? If they're the types who would also call Wrigley or Fenway a "dump" because they don't have the amenities of SoFi, I simply cannot take their opinions seriously. History and tradition should be a factor in everyone's opinion of a stadium/arena, and if someone can't see past the more superficial things like the bathrooms or concourses seeming old/outdated compared to newer ones, that's just ridiculous, IMO.

Memorial Stadium will not be a "dump" compared to Northwestern's new, soulless stadium. It will always have history and tradition that NU's new facility will never be able to replicate, and the Palestra seems like one of the crown jewels of hoops to me! No disrespect to your friend, of course, but I am passionate about celebrating classic stadiums/arenas and appreciating them. ;)
Places can be historic and not be dumps, but they do need maintenance and renovations. I thought Wrigley was a dump before its renovations, for example.
 
#164      
Places can be historic and not be dumps, but they do need maintenance and renovations. I thought Wrigley was a dump before its renovations, for example.
I agree that stadiums can easily be kept up while still maintaining their historic feels, and I feel the enhancements to Wrigley in the last decade have done a great job at that. However, I still maintain that calling an old stadium a "dump" because it's visually old is a bit harsh. A "dump" to me insinuates that the out-of-date nature of a stadium is in no way overshadowed by its charm, but JMO.
 
#165      
Just a sidenote RE: this neutral site conversation, I hate when TV announcers only ever mention the distance from campuses, as if there are zero fans of a team outside of its college town, lol. Who gives a crap how far Champaign is physically from the United Center when there are 220,000+ Illinois alumni and several thousand non-alum fans (like Fighter!) in the Chicago Area? The physical distance is only so relevant at that point.
The 5 metro area counties around Philadelphia appear to have 110,000 to 115,000 alums. Centre county where Penn State is located has 24,000.
 
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