Pregame: Illinois at UCLA, Saturday, February 21st, 7:00pm CT, FOX
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RabidDawgClassic
- Los Angeles, CA
That’s the B1G ref when he saw Kylan’s rebound dunk.
wettsten
- Chicago
i think sleepers actually makes a good point is about how effective Andrej is off the bench to balance out Wagler so that they're not competing for the ball when they're on the floor together.
Anyone in the arena could see that Andrej was working to keep the leg/ankle loose every time he was off the floor.
I don't think we're paying Andrej what we're paying for him to come off the bench.
Whitman, underwood and boosters care more about winning. Jake Davis starting makes more sense. Better shooter and opens the lane a little more. Love Andrej, just an opinion.
Personally, I care way more about who’s on the floor during crunch time. Don’t care who starts.
Saw that! Will be interesting to see how it plays out. I like the spacing Jake brings to the first group and the punch Andrej gives us off the bench. Can't go wrong either way though.
And so does the coach, who has said this many times over the years.
I honestly don't agree with this. WHO starts matters because HOW you start the game matters.
Jake's a pretty good rebounder as well
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Yep. He makes the right play. VERY high basketball I. Q.
That's irrelevant. It's sunk cost. Petrovic is one of our highest-paid players - would you prefer we take Keaton off the court to give him more playing time?
How do you know what he is getting paid? How do you know how it compares to the rest of the lineup? Very curious if you could break down the list in greater detail.
How you start the game matters? That is complete B.S. It's how you finish the game matters. The adjustments that are made at time outs and half time and isolating the match ups is how basketball games are won and lost. And I hate to bring up a name that everyone hates but that is how both Brad and Tom Izzo coach during the game. Most of the time they have their assistants make the adjustments.
On this team "I don't think we're paying (anyone) to come of the bench" is a ridiculous statement. This team is about winning and they do so through exploiting match ups. That us why we have so many different players leading us in points, not one or two. It is also why players on other teams have career nights against us but we still win. You think Andrej honestly cares whether he starts or not? He cares about being in the game when he can excel and when the team is winning.
One thing that comes across is that none of you have ever been to a college basketball or NBA practice or even read about them. The prep that these guys go through prior to practice is immense. And that preparation is all about match ups and combinations on the floor at a given time. That is why you hear so many color analysts on our telecasts say " I would love to see the white board as to how to defend....." And that is because so many of the color analysts that telecast our games are former players.
Normally, there is significant interesting back and forth on this board. But the comments about what we pay someone and its relationship to whether he is in the starting line up or its important because its how you start the game that matters not consistent with (1) What any of the coaches or players say or (2) Reality of how Illinois basketball operates.
The amount of playing time for all players relates directly to how that player's match up is working in that specific game . How many times does Brad Underwood have to say in a presser "+/- is the most important stat we look at" for you to believe that?
On this team "I don't think we're paying (anyone) to come of the bench" is a ridiculous statement. This team is about winning and they do so through exploiting match ups. That us why we have so many different players leading us in points, not one or two. It is also why players on other teams have career nights against us but we still win. You think Andrej honestly cares whether he starts or not? He cares about being in the game when he can excel and when the team is winning.
One thing that comes across is that none of you have ever been to a college basketball or NBA practice or even read about them. The prep that these guys go through prior to practice is immense. And that preparation is all about match ups and combinations on the floor at a given time. That is why you hear so many color analysts on our telecasts say " I would love to see the white board as to how to defend....." And that is because so many of the color analysts that telecast our games are former players.
Normally, there is significant interesting back and forth on this board. But the comments about what we pay someone and its relationship to whether he is in the starting line up or its important because its how you start the game that matters not consistent with (1) What any of the coaches or players say or (2) Reality of how Illinois basketball operates.
The amount of playing time for all players relates directly to how that player's match up is working in that specific game . How many times does Brad Underwood have to say in a presser "+/- is the most important stat we look at" for you to believe that?
Dismantle them.
This. Andrej is a ++ option any minutes he gets. But as a sixth man, that's just unfair.
In this day and age I don’t think that matters when the minutes are the same either way.
Chad Fleck
- Eureka, IL
Who starts the game seems to be a long standing sports issue. It means, "that player is one of the best" to everyone, including the player.
I'd call it progression to rise above this simplistic understanding and consider the game as a whole.
I'd call it progression to rise above this simplistic understanding and consider the game as a whole.
sacraig
- The desert
Unpopular opinion: Having mercurial, outspoken coaches like Mick and Fran in college basketball adds to the whole experience.
Hoping for a FRANCON5 level outburst from Mick after this game
Illini in Italy
- Illini HQ, Florida Panhandle
It certainly adds web forums fodder . . .
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