So you don’t think Tre should play either? Or are you just saying you know he won’t so you aren’t including him. You said “should”.
There’s no way that rotation of 7 guys can withstand the rest of the season.
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There’s no way that rotation of 7 guys can withstand the rest of the season.
My only question is how do you give the guy that much money(am assuming a lot) after only playing one year of D1 basketball for a mid-major program?,please make it make sense.
Who has a clue what BU will do? I sure don't.
I mean you gotta trust yourself and IMO Brad has typically had a good eye for talent. But once it’s an obvious miss, you gotta do something. Can’t be stubborn and put the player in positions where he’s hurting the team. Make home a rotational piece not the guy getting the second most minutes in a game like last night’s.
But since Booth and Tre can’t play, I guess someone has to.
Per Teamrankings.com
Illinois is essentially tied for 4th in 3 point FGA/Game, and 308th in 3 point FG%.
Maybe the staff should enroll in a Statistics 101 group couse.
Illinois is essentially tied for 4th in 3 point FGA/Game, and 308th in 3 point FG%.
Maybe the staff should enroll in a Statistics 101 group couse.
Why do the majority of players coming in seem to shoot worse under Brad?
Not true. it feels that way because several players this year have seen a drop-off from their career averages (e.g. Boswell, Humrichous)
There's no trend indicating players transferring to Illinois see a drawdown from their historical average at their last stop. And if you were analyzing that, you'd also need to consider the level their coming from (Humrichous, Harmon).
Several guys have transferred and shot on par or better to their career avg (e.g. Meyer, Shannon, Plummer)
Shannon - Texas Tech 35%, Illinois 34% with a much higher usage rate
Mayer - Baylor 34%, Illinois 33% with a much higher usage rate
Plummer - Utah 39%, Illinois 40% with a much higher usage rate
Harmon - Utah Valley 32%, Illinois 30%
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I don't think that this is discussed enough. Who is the leader on this roster? We were obviously prepped to come out of the locker room. We looked great. EVERY good team has THAT guy who when things go wrong, pulls his guys aside and straightens things out. Heck, during time outs, the first 3/4 of it is the players figuring it out, then the coach comes in and buttons everything up.
Who is that guy this year? With MSU being over the foul limit, should it really have taken Brad to point out the common sense obvious? It's one of three issues. 1)The leadership lever on this team is nil, 2)the intelligence and awareness level is nil or 3)we don't have the talent/quickness to continually get into the lane and make things happen.
It really shouldn't take the coach to tell them to get to the rim of get it inside with no dribble drive or dumping it into the paint. KJ and Tomi should have been living at the line. They didn't.
BUT…Brad will have you know that we supposedly hit “15 threes in a game”…3 separate times. So that validates everything. Cool.
Also, it’s okay to take 30 or 40 threes in a game (every damn night) because “3 is more than 2..”
We'll get up double digits and squander the lead like we have against:
@Northwestern
Tennessee
@MSU
MSU
And like we tried to do against:
Wisconsin
Mizzou
@Washington
Northwestern
OSU
UCLA
@Northwestern
Tennessee
@MSU
MSU
And like we tried to do against:
Wisconsin
Mizzou
@Washington
Northwestern
OSU
UCLA
Do you TRULY believe that Brad sits in the middle of the huddle and stresses to keep launching threes, regardless of situation? Do you think that's really happening?
Or, more likely, is it.....get the ball to the paint, take it to the paint and if the open looks is there, take it. That's FAR more likely. That really falls on our ball handlers that good decisions weren't being made and that's been the case for a while now.
Good decision making and ball security has been an issue now for a long while now. At what point, do we ask where the on court leadership and situational processing is the issue? It should NEVER take a TV timeout to reinforce that.
Unless something changes, Wisconsin by 15+
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Honest question for those that know, do we think the staff is capable or willing to make significant adjustments and try to reverse the direction of the season?
I don't know that the staff thinks there is a problem
, if the guys would just make 3s,jeezNo it probably shouldn’t. But if he’s NOT doing it IS on the coach. What exactly do you think is the coaches roll in all this?In the 8 minutes and :29 seconds (I think?) that we were essentially rudderless and didn’t score…none of that falls to your coach??
( You always seem to argue as if the coach should be doing nothing more than rolling the ball out?)
On well coached teams…(I’d like to think on SOME of Brad’s teams) the coach has a degree of control in realtime what happens.
If he was seeing that play out and had a problem with it he should have clearl stressed exactly what he wanted at the time. (He’s a lottery pick…but he’s also a Freshman. Did Ayo ever get a pass? He did prolly way more than he should have. But freshmen do freshmen things, right?
I agree some of the stuff KJ does is nerve wracking as hell…and it’s frustrating. But he’s telling KJ to shoot, shoot, shoot all the time as well. Is Brad being clear what his expectations are throughout? In other words, what role he envisions for KJ at different stages of the game? He lets him take the game into his own hands. Brad he apparently wants him to. Because he knows you gotta take the good with the bad with a talent like that. But it is on Brad to mold and mentor and correct in realtime.
KJ does deserve SOME blame…but how bout Brad himself? (Pretty hard for DGL and Tre do anything to help the equation from the bench)How about Kylan who gave ya nothing? (He’s supposed to be KJ’s mentor)
That’s the problem with trying to make a roster overnight with no redundancies and no continuity…and having a young team…and a coach that won’t listen to half his staff…and seldom admits he’s wrong until it’s too late.
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Great point.
Tre apparently did something so egregious he can’t play but not so bad that he doesn’t get kicked off the team.
Either play him or let him walk. BU won’t do the latter because he paid Tre and can’t admit he made a culture mistake so we’re left wondering why this talent isn’t playing.
As for DGL, how many times is BU going to apologize to him for not playing him more? This game especially with smaller aggressive guards…we needed him on D and putting pressure on the rim offensively. If I’m DGL, I’m out right at the end of the season.
I LOVE this comment because it's probably the answer. This lack of continuity is an issue for sure.
Another concern that I have is that we have a couple of guys that could/will be drafted. Do those guys want to make sure that they're "getting theirs"? Do you know what I mean? There's a lot of iso ball and I see that MAYBE Will is one of those guys. Maybe not. Sometimes, I'm seeing these guys standing within five feet of one another asking for the ball. I can guarantee that's not a play being drawn up.
Just bouncing that off of you.
Not exactly sure what you mean. Are you saying he was paid with the expectation he would be a featured scorer? Or that he was paid little so why bother doing the extra stuff, like defending.
Prove us all wrong Brad/players. This is a back against the wall type of week, show us there is still something to hope for this season
Well I certainly hope to hell not. (At this point, that would mean he still hasn’t realized who this team is…and he’s still waiting for that “regression to the mean”)
I have no idea what he is saying on the sideline. But look at how he built this roster. That tells me a lot right there…couple that with the rhetoric…yeah I think he’s telling KJ to shoot, shoot, shoot…more often than not.
He’s just NOW (publicly at least)stating the importance of getting to the basket.
Obviously, we are not privy to what happens in practice or the sidelines…so your guess is as good as mine. He certainly has said he wants us to shoot 30-40 a game in pressers ad nauseam.
It’s been the thing that he has publicly said the most. Not: “Boy we really need to consistently run our stuff better and execute…or whatever” He thought: the talent would gel and carry us…and that we had great shooters” He evidently thought we could play a little more free wheeling and freelance and get away with it. It hasn’t panned out like that.
Obviously some of the overally enthusiastic 3-ball launching talk is coach speak….with an intended audience of the team and would-be recruits & transfers…”come to Illinois you can shoot it all day long!”
I don’t think he says a lot on the sideline about specifics. I think he’s more of that…I do my coaching in practice kinda coach. That is sure how it seems.
As to the lack of leader-thing…if you don’t have a leader …or if your leader isn’t leading how you want…the coach has to step in.
* In that other post, that I replied to you…I re-read it…I kinda thought I sounded like Dickinson. I apologize. You make some good points.
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