Pregame: Illinois vs Duke, Saturday, February 22nd, 7:00pm CT, FOX

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#76      
It may be time to give the blue uniforms a shot
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#77      
4-D chess... Let Will at 6-9" guard Flagg. He gets absolutely demolished and realizes he's not quite ready for the next level. Brad/Boosters have a "timely" meeting with him about NIL for next year. We enjoy Will for another season.
 
#78      
Please don't let your children watch this massacre! It will take EVERYONE playing their very best game of their careers to finish this season on a high note. I think the only game they may have a slight chance to win is Iowa [20%] This season and this group of players were way over hyped from day 1. Shame on you Brad! This is the gang that couldn't shoot straight!
Wow, I thought the forecast was calling for sunnier weather since a few days have passed. Clearly the meteorologist once again was wrong.
 
#79      
Please don't let your children watch this massacre! It will take EVERYONE playing their very best game of their careers to finish this season on a high note. I think the only game they may have a slight chance to win is Iowa [20%] This season and this group of players were way over hyped from day 1. Shame on you Brad! This is the gang that couldn't shoot straight!
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It has been bad the last few weeks, but come on now. The Illini will be favored to win that game at home and even the Purdue home game might become a coin flip. This is an extreme overreaction to the situation.
 
#80      
I'm with you. I've been wondering whether other teams are suffering this run of illness and, if not, why we are. The flu has been especially pervasive this winter, but shouldn't all teams in cold-weather belts like ours be struggling with this, too?

Otherwise, it it nutrition, hygiene... excessive use of Red Bull and poppers?!
This is more of a bigger problem. Offensive strategy. Everyone in college basketball runs ball screens but the Illini run the 2-man game with no action on the weak side. During the ball screen, the other 3 players stand and wait for our PG to make a play. We just got beat by 2 teams (WI and Michigan ST) that have completely revamped their offensive philosophy. Go back and watch the movement in their offense compared to ours. Also, I don't know anything about Tyler (he could be a basketball savant for all I know) but whenever the cameras show our bench, Brad seems to be only talking with his 28-year-old son. I find that interesting when you have assistants with way more coaching experience on the bench.
 
#82      
As a team apologist, I am going to be positive and say that this whole Team wide sickness situation is legit.

IF TRUE, there's not a whole lot you can do, but give everything that you've got to give. Brad not wanting his kids to get in the handshake line was a cool move. If we're THAT BAD.....all they can do is ride it out. You can't practice with the team in that type of shape.

My question is.....how has this been an issue for over a month? Constant illness CAN BE a byproduct of cleanliness or common sense. There should be absolutely no way that these illnesses can be running through the team three times in a winter.

In any event, with how bad we've looked in recent second halves from a conditioning standpoint, it's hard to argue the situation. Conditioning hasn't been an issue under Brad or Fletch.......Ever.

So, that's my positivity shining through.
If you map out the sickness, it sounds like Tomi, Will, Dra, Tre, and Jake have been the ones to get sick. It could be Tomi's immune system isn't used to North American disease so he gets it first and it spreads from there to American players who seem to get over it faster.
 
#83      
Can any old timers recall a Illini season spiraling this bad in late Feb turning it around?
I can't. I see someone mentioned 79. I wasn't old enough for that one but as I understand it, that was just massive injuries at the wrong time that drove it off a cliff. I can say I've never seen a time whose high to low in terms of quality was so wide. They looked spectacular against Oregon & Indiana in particular. Truly looked like a final four capable team. I know some of the L's have been with illness or injury issues but even healthy they looked horrid at NW and the end of MSU.
 
#84      
The only possible win Illinois has coming up and IMO it's a longshot, is Iowa. And they CAN shoot 3's. Duke will be painful.
 
#85      
I too am so sad about our prospects going into this game. I was so excited for this matchup at the beginning of the year. Now, I’m just hoping we don’t get blown out on national television.

That being said, Duke isn’t infallible. They have played a super easy schedule in the ACC and their advanced metrics aren’t as good as you would expect. If we come out with 40 minutes of fight, and actually make our 3s at a good clip, this could be interesting. What do we have to lose?!

It would also be so Illinois to have a chance of actually stealing this one down the stretch and blowing it in the final minutes. Would that be more painful than a blowout?
 
#86      
I would love it. I would also think that there's next to zero chance of it happening. Our coaches go on and on about this EDG stuff, but when I guy like DGL has exemplified that profile, we haven't rewarded it.
His D is holding him back, IMO
 
#87      
I am interested to see how Duke does in the tournament. Because of how bad the ACC is, they've been in a lot of blow outs. Can they execute in the last 4 minutes of a close game? With the strength of the SEC, B1G, and B12 there are a lot of teams with close game experience that Duke doesn't have.
 
#88      
After our whipping we take Saturday in the garden, hopefully Bret B can get some revenge in Durham this fall
 
#89      
I am interested to see how Duke does in the tournament. Because of how bad the ACC is, they've been in a lot of blow outs. Can they execute in the last 4 minutes of a close game? With the strength of the SEC, B1G, and B12 there are a lot of teams with close game experience that Duke doesn't have.
I expect that sort of experience was why they agreed to this game. Assuming we get blown out again, our consultation prize is that we deprived them of that.

Though I'm still holding out for a dead cat bounce for this Illinois team. One game where shots fall and they pull things together to make a statement prior to scattering to the NBA and where ever NIL takes them. I'll take a Duke upset or a tournament upset. Either would cap this season as not a total disaster.
 
#90      
The last time a game was hyped about "pro scouts" (Rutgers) KJ finished with 7 points....I would like to see Brad use this Duke game to get KJ back on track. I wouldn't start him...send a msg as well as give him a chance to let his nerves settle a bit. I have zero knowledge of the young mans family life or background, but I can't imagine the weight on ones shoulders to perhaps not only set themselves up financially but also help the loved ones. It doesn't look to me like he is having fun anymore...the injuries..himself included and illnesses have probably made him try to do too much. Obviously each player reacts differently to hard coaching, this seems like a nice opportunity to not just help the team, but also help a young man relax and show the world what we know he CAN be. Light a fire while also calming the nerves. Shrugs, there is a very good chance that's why I am just a fan and not a coach :)
 
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#91      
Can any old timers recall a Illini season spiraling this bad in late Feb turning it around?
No, but this season reminds me of our 1978-1979 team. Had a great start to the season, beat Magic J & Sparty, and on January 15, 1979 we were ranked 4rth in the country. Steve Lanter our point guard got injured, we had no quality back-up pg and we lost our last 5 games of the year. No post season that year, not even the NIT. That team had some good forwards and centers; Eddie Johnson, Mark Smith, Derek Holcomb, James Griffin, Neal Bresnahan and Levi Cobb
 
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I am interested to see how Duke does in the tournament. Because of how bad the ACC is, they've been in a lot of blow outs. Can they execute in the last 4 minutes of a close game? With the strength of the SEC, B1G, and B12 there are a lot of teams with close game experience that Duke doesn't have.
This. I think we may have a bit of a leg up if we're able to keep it close right for that reason. However, keeping it close is more than unlikely at the moment.
 
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In 1979, we beat Michigan St. with Magic Johnson, on a Thursday. We we were 15-0, and going to be number 1 in the polls the next Monday, but then lost on Saturday to Ohio St. (that had Kelvin Ransey and Clark Kellogg) in overtime. Additionally our point guard Steve Lanter tore his ACL in that game. We ended the season 19-15 and went to the NIT.
Why did you remind of this? I work really hard on removing it from my memory.
 
#97      
If they can get healthy again they can play with anyone. With what has happened idk if that will actually occur though. Feels like a first round exit right now
I disagree. Even when 100% healthy, we rely too heavily on our 3 pt shooting, which is too erratic, AND when we having a bad night at 3s, we revert to hero ball. That does not bode well for the win or go home nature of tournament play.

Even if I am wrong, we won’t be healthy in March because Morez won’t be back in pre injury form (“healthy”) by then.
 
#99      
I bet on Duke when Flagg was gassed againt Clemson's slow bigs and slipped before he could take the shot to win the game. Here's to hoping we get that version of Duke. Clemson wasn't even playing that well.
 
#100      
That really is eye-opening. I looked this up, and it seems to be entirely the case.

This also got me looking at NBA observer's views on this and they are mixed: the turnovers, and here again it is the careless head-scratcher ones, are a big red flag. There are other concerns expressed, about defense and shooting excellence, but despite these concerns and the turnover-paloozas, KJ seems to clearly be a first-round "take" as is.

I was surprised to see a comp to Brandon Podziemski .... and that brought me back to thinking about how weird a missed opportunity THAT guy was. I know there were me-first vs team-first issues, but looking at the numbers at Santa Clara (5th nationally in 3-point shooting percentage!!!) and then in the NBA, it's hard not to see this as anything other than a stunning missed-eval.
 
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