Pregame: Illinois vs Michigan, Wednesday, January 11th, 8:00pm CT, BTN

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#176      
Why do people think Black is some kind of jumping jack? He seems at best average to me. He's more Charles Oakley than Jason Richardson.

He does a pretty good job rebounding at 6'7 when most B1G post players are 6'9 and up. I think when he gets his feet set he's pretty explosive, and he has long arms for his height so he can grab the ball higher than maybe a normal 6'7 guy can.
 
#177      
He does a pretty good job rebounding at 6'7 when most B1G post players are 6'9 and up. I think we he gets his feet set he's pretty explosive, and he has long arms for his height so he can grab the ball higher than maybe a normal 6'7 guy can.

Rebounding is a below the rim activity, leaping ability is not necessary (see Oakley reference above).
 
#179      

ILL in IA

Iowa City
I want to see TJL and JCL in the starting 5 together, but man that would be some bad defense right out the gate.
 
#180      
I want to see TJL and JCL in the starting 5 together, but man that would be some bad defense right out the gate.

Its interesting. Line up and defensive adjustments need to be made. But they don't necessarily fit together.
 
#181      
I want to see TJL and JCL in the starting 5 together, but man that would be some bad defense right out the gate.
But as with Maryland and Indiana, Tracy has shown us no real defense and certainly no offense. I Like the idea of TJL and JCL in the backcourt with Hill, Black and Mav. Then you have Tracy off the bench at the pg/sg, DJW at the sf, Nichols at the pf and Finke at c. Thorne will be a bad matchup for this game and just not a fan of Tate's although I pleaded in the past for people to go easy on him. I'm willing to go with AJ if you play 11.
 
#182      

blmillini

Bloomington, IL
But as with Maryland and Indiana, Tracy has shown us no real defense and certainly no offense. I Like the idea of TJL and JCL in the backcourt with Hill, Black and Mav. Then you have Tracy off the bench at the pg/sg, DJW at the sf, Nichols at the pf and Finke at c. Thorne will be a bad matchup for this game and just not a fan of Tate's although I pleaded in the past for people to go easy on him. I'm willing to go with AJ if you play 11.

Are you kidding me? Tracy might be in a slump offensively but he is the best defender on the team.
 
#184      
Not enough talk about the jerseys. Still undefeated in the throwbacks, expecting another win tonight! It's that simple.

Starting 5: swap Mav for Thorne
Bench: TJL and Tate swap minutes, Kipper takes some of Finke's and DJW
 
#185      

Chef Illini

Palatine, IL
Not enough talk about the jerseys. Still undefeated in the throwbacks, expecting another win tonight! It's that simple.

Starting 5: swap Mav for Thorne
Bench: TJL and Tate swap minutes, Kipper takes some of Finke's and DJW

Not that it matters, but at a certain point, they stop being throwbacks and just a regular uniform. No way did I think they were going to be worn so much this year.
 
#186      
Attending this one in person. Hope we have a good crowd. I know I will be doing my part. This is as much of a must win as we have going forward. I hope the guys realize this and play all out. There is no room left to squander any winnable games.
 
#187      
Not that it matters, but at a certain point, they stop being throwbacks and just a regular uniform. No way did I think they were going to be worn so much this year.

Those jerseys are among the select few exciting things about this years team. I'd almost be for Groce coming back next year if he came out and said they were the only jerseys they are going to wear moving forward.
 
#188      
Just welcomed a son into the world... glad he arrived before the Illini game so I can watch it tonight! Let's win another one at home, boys!!!


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#189      
I agree with so much of this above. Is it game time yet? Tonight game either gives me some hope (misguided as it might be) or may be closer to putting me out of my misery.
I agree with Ken's analysis as well, really excellent observation about all the other players having to act as pseudo PGs. Not like when we had Luther, Dee and Deron where each was at least a double if not triple threat.
 
#192      
Just welcomed a son into the world... glad he arrived before the Illini game so I can watch it tonight! Let's win another one at home, boys!!!


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This is what it is all about!!! Congratulations and hope all are healthy.
 
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#197      
I'm less concerned with who starts than tightening up the rotation. Unless top player or two gets into foul trouble like Hill did at IU, shouldn't have 10 or 11 players seeing action. Yes, the roster is deep, but if it was as talented as people seem to think then we'd be a better team. Need to start winnowing down the rotation to basically 7 or 8 players, and have our best guys out there the most.

I also have to keep my eyes glued to DJW when he gets into the game tonight because I just don't understand all the love he gets on here. Yes he's athletic, but I've not seen him do anything to warrant more minutes.
 
#198      

CAHALL15

Central Illinois
The loss of Nunn's toughness, defense, 3pt shooting and rebounding will probably cost Groce his job.

No. This has got to be one of the oldest teams in NCAA and everyone is healthy. If Groce can't get into the dance with this roster, it's because he's inadequate as a coach.
 
#199      
Why do people think Black is some kind of jumping jack? He seems at best average to me. He's more Charles Oakley than Jason Richardson.

Per Fletch's nos 31.5 vertical vs Kipper's 36. Actually one of lowest on team. Says something about rebounding though.
 
#200      
Not enough talk about the jerseys. Still undefeated in the throwbacks, expecting another win tonight! It's that simple.

Starting 5: swap Mav for Thorne
Bench: TJL and Tate swap minutes, Kipper takes some of Finke's and DJW

Can you forward this message to the coaching staff? :) Please. Maybe add Finke can take some of Thorne's minutes, too
 
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