Pregame: Illinois vs Ottawa (Exhibition), Friday, October 20th, 8:00pm CT, B1G+

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#76      
Unless we drop some bad ones our noncon schedule really can't hurt us. If you assume we lose all the toss-ups (Marquette, FAU, Tenn, Miz) and win everything else that's still a 7-4 record. Now obviously if you go 10-10 in B10 play thats a 17-14 record and you likely miss the tourney. I'd assume if this roster goes 10-10 in the conference this year that Brad's seat would be extremely hot.

If you assume we instead take one of the toss-ups and go 13-7 in conference that's a 21-10 record ( I think? ) and would be a top-6 seed.
Right. That's what I got 21-10.

If you can't wait for Friday, re-watch the Illini game against Northwestern on 2/23/2023 on YouTube. That is a gem of a second half!
 
#77      
I want a S16 as much as anyone, but firing Underwood after he dug us out of a pit of despair and has made us a winning program again based on some tourney stumbles is crazy. Keep bringing in talent and putting them in a position to win and we will break through eventually. The tourney is a crapshoot based on matchups and you can get bounced having an off night. Now if we slide back to missing tournaments, then I can see the seat getting very warm.
 
#78      
If it's sweet 16 or bust, being ranked #25 is really bad...

Historically, the track record of Illini basketball being consistently ranked year after year is not particularly good. I'd wager replacing Brad would be much more likely to slide us back into doormat status than to spark a renaissance of U of I basketball. Let's not pretend this is one of those programs where winning is easy. This conference isn't going to get easier in the coming years.

Brad has kept us very competitive and kept the SFC full, even though all the challenges and paradigm shifts of the past few seasons. Are we due for some regression regarding tournament results? Of course! The variance of tournament results is such, that its awfully tough to judge anyone's job perfromcance to such a small sample size. It would be like a GM judging a baseball player by his batting average in the wild card round of the playoffs. Does it matter? Yes! Does it mean the guy is a bum, and not worth keeping because he struggled in a very small, albeit insanely important sample? No.
 
#80      

pruman91

Paducah, Ky
Brad gets at least one more year no matter what simply to keep Moretz in the fold.
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#81      
Unless we drop some bad ones our noncon schedule really can't hurt us. If you assume we lose all the toss-ups (Marquette, FAU, Tenn, Miz) and win everything else that's still a 7-4 record. Now obviously if you go 10-10 in B10 play thats a 17-14 record and you likely miss the tourney. I'd assume if this roster goes 10-10 in the conference this year that Brad's seat would be extremely hot.

If you assume we instead take one of the toss-ups and go 13-7 in conference that's a 21-10 record ( I think? ) and would be a top-6 seed.
Hard for me to evaluate where we'll wind up this year without seeing the team, unless you count the somewhat meaningless Spain trip, which didn't quite inspire confidence despite the wins. If I were to take a shot at it though, sight unseen, I'd guess:

8-3 non-con
11-9 B10
1-1 BTT
20-13 overall

That's slightly worse than kenpom projects but I think our B10 schedule is tricky this year with some tough road games and facing the three other teams projected to be at the top of the conference twice each in Purdue, MSU, and Maryland does us no favors. Nor does facing the next two upper teams in OSU and Wisconsin only away. That's not saying we can't win say 24 games this year, but the path will be tougher than in most years
 
#82      
#1 there is a 0% chance Brad Underwood gets fired. Outrageous

#2 Barring disastrous injuries, this team is not getting worse than a seven seed this year (think they can and will do better than that)

#3 Domask and Harmon are a lot better than people on here think. This team is super deep, has the star player, really tough, and should be better on both ends than last year
 
#83      
#1 there is a 0% chance Brad Underwood gets fired. Outrageous

#2 Barring disastrous injuries, this team is not getting worse than a seven seed this year (think they can and will do better than that)

#3 Domask and Harmon are a lot better than people on here think. This team is super deep, has the star player, really tough, and should be better on both ends than last year
I mean there’s gotta be some sort of scenario we fire BU right? Maybe if he’s determined to be the zodiac killer. Unless you think they’d let him coach from jail.
 
#87      

foby

Bonnaroo Land
#1 there is a 0% chance Brad Underwood gets fired. Outrageous

#2 Barring disastrous injuries, this team is not getting worse than a seven seed this year (think they can and will do better than that)

#3 Domask and Harmon are a lot better than people on here think. This team is super deep, has the star player, really tough, and should be better on both ends than last year
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#88      
Any starting lineup predictions? Line ups you’d like to see?

Starting:

Rodgers
Shannon
Domask
Hawkins
Dain

Line up I’d like to see:

Harmon
Shannon
Domask
Hansberry
Hawkins

Want to see DGL, Luke, and Sencire too! Will be interesting to see how the piece fit together.
 
#89      

foby

Bonnaroo Land
Any starting lineup predictions? Line ups you’d like to see?

Starting:

Rodgers
Shannon
Domask
Hawkins
Dain

Line up I’d like to see:

Harmon
Shannon
Domask
Hansberry
Hawkins

Want to see DGL, Luke, and Sencire too! Will be interesting to see how the piece fit together.
Agree on starters.

Lineup I want to see;
DGL
Sencire
TSJ
QG
CoHawk
 
#90      
At the risk of being ridiculed I was watching a segment of the Sleepers media podcast today. In the segment, "Good or Bad" I just jotted down some of the things they said so it is not complete.

They mentioned that:
There's been some buzz around a specific player.
Nothing quantifiable but something was shared with me (one of the podcasters) from someone who has a direct line to the coaches of Illinois basketball. The most hyped player right now, supersized break-out they're expecting is Marcus Domask.

Although I think we have heard that before.

Don't shoot the messenger.
 
#91      
I guess I missed that, and can't find it. Would you share a link to it?
There was a post on here a couple months back. I can find it. Josh did a few media interviews in June that hinted around the subject. I'm looking...
 
#92      
Agree on starters.

Lineup I want to see;
DGL
Sencire
TSJ
QG
CoHawk
Interesting to see it to start a game with a full court press. Still remember a game where the Flying Illini started a game with a full court press and were ahead something like 25-2 very quickly. (Don’t remember the opponent ). The quickness of the first three would be a real challenge to an opponent. Maybe an option if a slow start. Energy Booster
 
#93      
Interesting to see it to start a game with a full court press. Still remember a game where the Flying Illini started a game with a full court press and were ahead something like 25-2 very quickly. (Don’t remember the opponent ). The quickness of the first three would be a real challenge to an opponent. Maybe an option if a slow start. Energy Booster
Any pressing lineup has to have Ty imo. We got multiple high motor dudes with decent or better athleticism and when you have that height/length becomes the separating factor.
 
#94      
Any starting lineup predictions? Line ups you’d like to see?

Starting:

Rodgers
Shannon
Domask
Hawkins
Dain
But why would we choose the sharpshooter who doesn't shoot quite as sharply? Slightly worse FG percentage, slightly worse 3pt percentage, and slightly worse FT percentage going by last season's numbers, who is also an inch shorter (has a smaller wingspan) so he can't get his shot off quite as easily, and gets lower rebounds and blocks per min played? Yes, I'm talking about how you have Domask starting over Goode.

In my opinion, Domask simply hasn't earned it yet this season. Playing a ton of minutes and taking a ton of shots for SIU (even if you score a lot as a result) doesn't make you a better player than a guy with better %s and some better per-min stats playing in the role we need him to play, namely, mostly, to hit open shots and give our best offensive players (TSJ, CH, DD) more possessions. In other words, I don't want to see a mid-sized, somewhat-slow, sharpshooter missing shots that should have gone to our better offensive players, and last year's numbers show that Goode won't do that as much as Domask will.

BTW, I do like Domask off the bench for 15 to 20 mins per game and a potentially big scorer in that role. And all this is subject to change, of course, based on this season's stats and any injuries.
 
#96      
But why would we choose the sharpshooter who doesn't shoot quite as sharply? Slightly worse FG percentage, slightly worse 3pt percentage, and slightly worse FT percentage going by last season's numbers, who is also an inch shorter (has a smaller wingspan) so he can't get his shot off quite as easily, and gets lower rebounds and blocks per min played? Yes, I'm talking about how you have Domask starting over Goode.

In my opinion, Domask simply hasn't earned it yet this season. Playing a ton of minutes and taking a ton of shots for SIU (even if you score a lot as a result) doesn't make you a better player than a guy with better %s and some better per-min stats playing in the role we need him to play, namely, mostly, to hit open shots and give our best offensive players (TSJ, CH, DD) more possessions. In other words, I don't want to see a mid-sized, somewhat-slow, sharpshooter missing shots that should have gone to our better offensive players, and last year's numbers show that Goode won't do that as much as Domask will.

BTW, I do like Domask off the bench for 15 to 20 mins per game and a potentially big scorer in that role. And all this is subject to change, of course, based on this season's stats and any injuries.
Why do you hate Domask when you haven't seen him play at Illinois? Luke might do great this year but he hasn't proved he deserves a starting spot. I am pretty sure Underwood will put the best players on the floor based on practices and not last year's stats.
 
#97      
Interesting to see it to start a game with a full court press. Still remember a game where the Flying Illini started a game with a full court press and were ahead something like 25-2 very quickly. (Don’t remember the opponent ). The quickness of the first three would be a real challenge to an opponent. Maybe an option if a slow start. Energy Booster
Maybe the at Northwestern game about 20 years ago. I remember NW scored less than 20 points total (I seem to remember around 14 points) in the first half. I don't remember if Illinois went full-court press but considering the score probably did. I was there and it was an incredible game the way the Illini just stifled the NW offense.

I just looked it up, half time score was 35-13. NW outscored the Illini in the second half 28-21 making the final score somewhat respectable but I think the Illini let up the second half and kind of coasted to the victory.
 
#98      

blackdog

Champaign
But why would we choose the sharpshooter who doesn't shoot quite as sharply? Slightly worse FG percentage, slightly worse 3pt percentage, and slightly worse FT percentage going by last season's numbers, who is also an inch shorter (has a smaller wingspan) so he can't get his shot off quite as easily, and gets lower rebounds and blocks per min played? Yes, I'm talking about how you have Domask starting over Goode.

In my opinion, Domask simply hasn't earned it yet this season. Playing a ton of minutes and taking a ton of shots for SIU (even if you score a lot as a result) doesn't make you a better player than a guy with better %s and some better per-min stats playing in the role we need him to play, namely, mostly, to hit open shots and give our best offensive players (TSJ, CH, DD) more possessions. In other words, I don't want to see a mid-sized, somewhat-slow, sharpshooter missing shots that should have gone to our better offensive players, and last year's numbers show that Goode won't do that as much as Domask will.

BTW, I do like Domask off the bench for 15 to 20 mins per game and a potentially big scorer in that role. And all this is subject to change, of course, based on this season's stats and any injuries.

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#99      
Maybe the at Northwestern game about 20 years ago. I remember NW scored less than 20 points total (I seem to remember around 14 points) in the first half. I don't remember if Illinois went full-court press but considering the score probably did. I was there and it was an incredible game the way the Illini just stifled the NW offense.

I just looked it up, half time score was 35-13. NW outscored the Illini in the second half 28-21 making the final score somewhat respectable but I think the Illini let up the second half and kind of coasted to the victory.
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#100      
Agree on starters.

Lineup I want to see;
DGL
Sencire
TSJ
QG
CoHawk
I like that lineup actually but I just feel like DGL and Sencire at the 1 and 2 would be too risky. And I’d rather not try the “start the freshman PG at the 1” experiment again. I love Quincy and Coleman as our front court though

Rodgers
TJ
Domask
Guerrier
Coleman
 
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