It isn't so much Pickett, it's running the other shooters off the 3 point line, fighting through screens and chasing down shooters off curls. RJ has been really good at that as of late. I expect to see a lot of him Thursday.
I think we start the non-dain lineup and rotate him in when picket gets breaks. Maybe a 1-2 minute overlap here or there.
The Coleman + all the 6’5-6’7 guys lineup has been really good when we’ve actually tried.
Thanks for looking that up. I've long suspected that the whole "it's really hard to beat a team in three matchups in the same season" folk wisdom was just something that fans leaned on to give hope in a seemingly hopeless situation.According to STATS LLC., there have been 981 similar matchups across Division I college basketball over the past 10 seasons. The teams entering the third game 2-0 are a combined 710-271 (.724 winning percentage) in the third meeting.
So over a 10-year period in college basketball including almost 1,000 games, the team that won the first 2 games won the third meeting 72.4% of the time. So it clearly doesn’t follow that it is hard to beat a team 3 times.
we've seen it go twice before and then some (and by some I'm talking about our unpredictable play in the 1st half...). I get it's hard to be beat 3 times in the B1G, but I can't see who we put on him to slow him down.Really? Lets see how it goes and then revisit this discussion.
It isn't so much Pickett, it's running the other shooters off the 3 point line, fighting through screens and chasing down shooters off curls. RJ has been really good at that as of late. I expect to see a lot of him Thursday.
I looked back at least year and he scored 16 pts on us.Pickett torched us that year too in case you forgot.
According to STATS LLC., there have been 981 similar matchups across Division I college basketball over the past 10 seasons. The teams entering the third game 2-0 are a combined 710-271 (.724 winning percentage) in the third meeting.
So over a 10-year period in college basketball including almost 1,000 games, the team that won the first 2 games won the third meeting 72.4% of the time. So it clearly doesn’t follow that it is hard to beat a team 3 times.
I saw a stat one time that the 2-0 team goes 3-0 about 70% of the time. However, you’d REALLY need to look into it a bit more. Kansas beating Oklahoma for a third time in the Big XII Tournament is a totally different beast than our 2009 Illini team failing to beat a higher ranked Purdue for the third time in the BTT that year.I know Penn State has had our number, but I'm honestly a little happier drawing them rather than the winner of Nebraska/Minnesota. The Huskers have been hot lately and, assuming they beat Minnesota, they'll have a game under their belt at the UC. Penn State is objectively a better team, so maybe I'm just grasping at straws... but I have a feeling I'd be sweating the Nebraska opener a bit if I were MD.
I'm also curious about the old adage that "it's hard to beat the same team three times in a season". It's an interesting one because in a literal sense, it's almost certainly true: there are three ways to go 2-1 and only one way to go 3-0. But the adage is usually used after you're 2-0 or 0-2 against a team, to imply that the last game is more likely to go the other way - and I'm curious whether there's any data to support that. I'm guessing not.
Hmmmmmm.........bro , 41 points is a LOT of Pickett.........just sayin....................It isn't so much Pickett, it's running the other shooters off the 3 point line, fighting through screens and chasing down shooters off curls. RJ has been really good at that as of late. I expect to see a lot of him Thursday.
PSU beating Illinois by more than 10 pts each time is evidence we aren't dealing with and 'equal' matchup. If they edged us out twice, then it would be more of an equal match.I saw a stat one time that the 2-0 team goes 3-0 about 70% of the time. However, you’d REALLY need to look into it a bit more. Kansas beating Oklahoma for a third time in the Big XII Tournament is a totally different beast than our 2009 Illini team failing to beat a higher ranked Purdue for the third time in the BTT that year.
I’d guess for “equal” teams, that third win actually is pretty hard, and that’s where the perception comes from. Nobody is on the lookout for someone getting their third win of the year against Minnesota in Chicago, haha.
EDIT: I see someone already posted actual stats, haha. I still stand by my assertion that when you take out your #1 BTT seeds vs. lower-ranked teams it would be a lot more even, and I bet when it comes to getting a third straight “upset,” the percentage IS in fact low.
I saw a stat one time that the 2-0 team goes 3-0 about 70% of the time. However, you’d REALLY need to look into it a bit more. Kansas beating Oklahoma for a third time in the Big XII Tournament is a totally different beast than our 2009 Illini team failing to beat a higher ranked Purdue for the third time in the BTT that year.
I’d guess for “equal” teams, that third win actually is pretty hard, and that’s where the perception comes from. Nobody is on the lookout for someone getting their third win of the year against Minnesota in Chicago, haha.
EDIT: I see someone already posted actual stats, haha. I still stand by my assertion that when you take out your #1 BTT seeds vs. lower-ranked teams it would be a lot more even, and I bet when it comes to getting a third straight “upset,” the percentage IS in fact low.
I’d kinda like to see Goode start over Dain. He brought some great energy against PU.Team is pissed off and will be playing with a fire up their !!! (see Luke Goode's post). It's go time now, time to do what this team was built for
PSU beating Illinois by more than 10 pts each time is evidence we aren't dealing with and 'equal' matchup. If they edged us out twice, then it would be more of an equal match.
unfortunately not something that can be turned on or off.We need to step on them early and not take our foot off. This has to be our mindset the rest of the way.
Missed the post, do not see anything on his Twitter feed. Can you explain what/where he posted?Team is pissed off and will be playing with a fire up their !!! (see Luke Goode's post). It's go time now, time to do what this team was built for
Not so much Pickett!!!! 41 pts of his teams 93 says too much pickett.It isn't so much Pickett, it's running the other shooters off the 3 point line, fighting through screens and chasing down shooters off curls. RJ has been really good at that as of late. I expect to see a lot of him Thursday.
informational but one needs to filter the results to teams of comparable competitiveness - including a 30 vs 200 game is not revealing (eg Gonzaga vs whomever in the first few rounds of conf tourny). I think 2-0 vs Minn or teams like Louisville, we wouldn't be worried about a third matchup saying its hard to beat a team three timesThanks for looking that up. I've long suspected that the whole "it's really hard to beat a team in three matchups in the same season" folk wisdom was just something that fans leaned on to give hope in a seemingly hopeless situation.
Or to retroactively ease the pain of a frustrating loss (1989...).
RJ 16 minutes in December and only 3 minutes on Valentines day. Agree RJ's play of late will provide good minutes on defense and hopefully offensively.Big +1. RJ played 3 minutes last time we played them!
I'm not even talking about specific matchups, more the overall quality of the teams. Given both of our teams' performance over the entire season, you could argue we are fairly equal in the abstract; we are in a 7/10 matchup on Thursday together, after all.PSU beating Illinois by more than 10 pts each time is evidence we aren't dealing with and 'equal' matchup. If they edged us out twice, then it would be more of an equal match.
I sure hope Tyler is keeping up on our suggestions because that one is obvious and brilliant.Lets just win, Someone on the bench needs to a white board showing us down 0-20 at the tip. Man I'd love to see this team have bounce for 40 minutes
Team is pissed off and will be playing with a fire up their !!! (see Luke Goode's post). It's go time now, time to do what this team was built for