Pregame: Illinois vs Toledo, Saturday, September 2nd, 6:30pm CT, BTN

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It's hard not to feel generally anxious given the programs history over the past 10+ yrs, but for the first time in a long time I am beginning to trust that the culture is truly different.

I will be very surprised if the team isn't disciplined, dialed in, engaged and holding each other accountable every week.

Separately thought, is Leonard's input going to be evident or impactful right away?

Yes ... But maybe not evident to the average fan if that makes sense ...

Had the pleasure of chatting with him very recently ... He has given Bret some things to tweak based off opponents strengths, really helped out A Hen ...

I also thought this was an interesting note from him ... The staff has been all over Xavier Scott and hyping him up ... I knew he was going to be solid ... Jimmy says Scott has looked like an NFL guy ... The exact quote was "he's gonna be the next 1st round DB ... he really has been that impressive" ...

I really liked what he thought on plan of attack for Penn State (opponents do read this board so I will not get into it ... I see you Ryan and Kevin ... Lol)

We need to make some NOISE that Penn State game ... Put the world on notice ... Or at the least play a very, very competitive football game ...

There will be a TON of recruits there (very important ones for MBB, and a lot of football) ... I know there are quite a few important alum coming back and nearly ALL of the high profile boosters will be in attendance ... It is important that we are prepared for that game and that is really what Jimmy has been focused on in addition to our other games obviously ...
 
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PizzaHutParkingLot

McPherson, KS
Yes ... But maybe not evident to the average fan if that makes sense ...

Had the pleasure of chatting with him very recently ... He has given Bret some things to tweak based off opponents strengths, really helped out A Hen ...

I also thought this was an interesting note from him ... The staff has been all over Xavier Scott and hyping him up ... I knew he was going to be solid ... Jimmy says Scott has looked like an NFL guy ... The exact quote was "he's gonna be the next 1st round DB ... he really has been that impressive" ...

I really liked what he thought on plan of attack for Penn State (opponents do read this board so I will not get into it ... I see you Ryan and Kevin ... Lol)

We need to make some NOISE that Penn State game ... Put the world on notice ... Or at the least play a very, very competitive football game ...

There will be a TON of recruits there (very important ones for MBB, and a lot of football) ... I know there are quite a few important alum coming back and nearly ALL of the high profile boosters will be in attendance ... It is important that we are prepared for that game and that is really what Jimmy has been focused on in addition to our other games obviously ...
Hi Coach Walters!


But on a serious note, multiple first round draft picks next spring would be huge for the program (DBU anyone?)
 
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Idk. I liked Millen once he moved to college football. More like having a good time, not so serious at this point in career. Did not like him at nfl. Hopefully enough time to learn something about the Illini!
 
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Thanks!! And yes, responding to yours and other comments on my MS Paint handiwork, plus some other random thoughts of my own... :cool:

1. I could not agree more that it is not really about how MANY seats we have; it is about the layout. As another poster said, the Big House's 110k+ are not much louder than our 48k vs. Iowa ... it's all about how the stadium is built. And loud stadiums are enclosed to trap the noise. Consider the following two stadiums that are materially smaller than ours but look more complete, trap the noise better and generally make better use of the seats they do have (you'll notice neither has any seats underneath a balcony overhang).

Minnesota: 6,523 fewer seats
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Baylor: 15,530 fewer!!!
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2. On that note, people shouldn't think of relocating capacity to the Horseshoe as KEEPING the Horseshoe ... the Horseshoe needs to be demolished. The fact that you have twice the seats in the Horseshoe as you do in the student section shows just how inefficiently and architecturally lame we made that structure. If you took all the seats from underneath the East Balcony overhang and added it to the Horseshoe but built the structure below, I bet you would actually have a net REDUCTION in capacity, as newer stadiums/seats just have lower capacities because they're less cramped in:

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Now that is just a thing of beauty. The problem with the current Horseshoe (and the NEZ, to a lesser extent) is that the seats/design of Memorial Stadium between the end zones is truly "grand" in its appearance. When the seats in the end zone are as mundane (at best) or even ugly (at worst) as the Horseshoe, it looks like we have two different stadiums mashed together, and (in my humble opinion) starts to take away from some of the beauty of Memorial Stadium.

The first picture below looks like we have a stadium comparable to Ohio State (specifically) or another Blue Blood, as your mind fills in the rest of the stadium looking that grand ... the second one looks like a (kind of) nice high school stadium in Texas, lol.

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I know I complain about the Horseshoe a lot ... but I only do it because I care, and I see such limitless potential in our stadium. Perception is crafted by a game of inches, and improvements that might not seem that essential (like renovating the Horseshoe) can end up making a massive difference. Once Bret strings together some more winning seasons and our attendance/donor money keeps increasing, I think Josh definitely sees the value in renovating Memorial Stadium in a way that maintains its classic look while improving on it. It really could be one of the most iconic venues in the Big Ten ... we are gifted with an absolutely incredible and unique starting point, we just have to touch up some areas.
Awesome post, would love Memorial to be more beautiful and louder. We are lucky to have such a great neoclassical foundation.
 
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Once Bret strings together some more winning seasons and our attendance/donor money keeps increasing, I think Josh definitely sees the value in renovating Memorial Stadium in a way that maintains its classic look while improving on it. It really could be one of the most iconic venues in the Big Ten ... we are gifted with an absolutely incredible and unique starting point, we just have to touch up some areas.

It's going to be a while. With interest rates what they are and Illinois' massive athletic debt they aren't in any position to take on such a large scale project.
 
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mhuml32

Cincinnati, OH
Are any of these guys starters besides the safety that was said to be out for 3 weeks?

Sucks to lose guys this close to the season.

No. Holmes might have gotten snaps but he also tore his ACL in the middle of last season, so it's not shocking he won't be ready for week 1. Anderson and Hood fall more under "will get snaps if the game gets out of hand". Maybe they would have gotten a snap or two outside of special teams?
 
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It's going to be a while. With interest rates what they are and Illinois' massive athletic debt they aren't in any position to take on such a large scale project.
Unfortunately, you are probably right ... however, things can change VERY quickly when big-time donors start believing they're going to see a true payoff. Just my conjecture, but I guarantee you that it pisses off every single big Illini donor that we don't have a football culture like Iowa or Wisconsin, and they're willing to help invest to change that. There might be financial realities that delay it a bit here and there, but I think that two more seasons of 7+ wins would transform how "big money" we are as a program (and we are already pretty "big money" compared to most schools!). We have a bigger alumni base than either Iowa or Wisconsin, and there is more money in this state than those states ... just gotta change the perception over time! With that said, our donors have seemingly been fantastic to Whitman.
 
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Ransom Stoddard

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Bloomington, IL
Unfortunately, you are probably right ... however, things can change VERY quickly when big-time donors start believing they're going to see a true payoff. Just my conjecture, but I guarantee you that it pisses off every single big Illini donor that we don't have a football culture like Iowa or Wisconsin, and they're willing to help invest to change that. There might be financial realities that delay it a bit here and there, but I think that two more seasons of 7+ wins would transform how "big money" we are as a program (and we are already pretty "big money" compared to most schools!). We have a bigger alumni base than either Iowa or Wisconsin, and there is more money in this state than those states ... just gotta change the perception over time! With that said, our donors have seemingly been fantastic to Whitman.
Fighter, I don't know if you've posted this mockup, but I like what they wanted to do with the SEZ. Unfortunately this is from 7 years ago and is nothing more than a warm thought at this point.

And then there's this
The Congressional Historic Stadium Caucus launched Friday has identified 18 historic college football stadiums for preservation and modernization, including some of the oldest, most-legendary venues in the nation.
Yes, Memorial Stadium is on that list--in fact 5 of the 18 are current or about-to-be B1G stadiums.
 
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Fighter, I don't know if you've posted this mockup, but I like what they wanted to do with the SEZ. Unfortunately this is from 7 years ago and is nothing more than a warm thought at this point.

And then there's this

Yes, Memorial Stadium is on that list--in fact 5 of the 18 are current or about-to-be B1G stadiums.
Does the historic stadium designation mean that there will be fed $$$ to spend or just that UIUC will have to spend within some rules limiting what can actually be changed?
 
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personally, I am a firm believer in NOT letting the Feds get their hands involved in our deal.
Their money ALWAYS has strings attached that normally effs things up
Totally agree. I could just see some nonsense coming from them about the horseshoe being a "historical characteristic" of the stadium so no changes.
 
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dgcrow

Kelso, WA
personally, I am a firm believer in NOT letting the Feds get their hands involved in our deal.
Their money ALWAYS has strings attached that normally effs things up
More like bungee chords. ;)
 
#397      
Still talked sh!t and got h!t. This is about overlooking an opponent, and specifically the team I root for.

The practice schedule in late August is an aside and nitpick from what I consider a payoff or fall on your face strategy if these two squads are as roster talent rankings suggest.

Isn’t this pretty much also what you’re doing here on this board? You keep talking about Toledo “having Bielema’s number,” “giant killers” and acting like your team is Boise State or NDSU or something. Toledo ain’t it, you’re not fooling anyone but yourself lmao.
 
#398      
I'm assuming that was about when Bielema was at Arkansas 8 seasons ago and made a factual statement about Ohio State's schedule versus theirs at the time and then he lost to Toledo, a top tier MAC team that wins a lot of games against P5 opponents and everyone was like HEH KARMA?????

I mean it's not like he disparaged Toledo, but I guess he offended an entire state at the time?
 
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Isn’t this pretty much also what you’re doing here on this board? You keep talking about Toledo “having Bielema’s number,” “giant killers” and acting like your team is Boise State or NDSU or something. Toledo ain’t it, you’re not fooling anyone but yourself lmao.
Re-baiting after the weekend I see. I respond when talked to. That's all.
 
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