Quentin Coleman on the USA U18 National Team

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RollChief
NarrowJ said:
25-26:

Wagler 18
Boswell 20
Stojakovic 21
Mirkovic 19
T.Ivisic 22
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J.Davis 20
Humrichous 23
Z.Ivisic 22

Avg age of starters: 20.0
Avg age of top 8: 20.6

26-27:

Vaaks 21
Coleman 18
Stojakovic 22
Mirkovic 20
T.Ivisic 23
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J.Davis 21
L.Morillo 19
Z.Ivisic 23

Avg age of starters: 20.8
Avg age of top 8: 20.9
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To your point, we will in fact be "older" next season than we were this season, and perhaps a better way to illustrate this is through KenPom's "D-1 Experience" stat.

Last year, our average D-1 Experience was 1.64 years, which was good for #130 out of 365 D-1 teams. The KP calculation is proprietary but I was able to replicate 2025-2026 in an excel model that I then used to project 2026-2027's D-1 Experience, and using the assumptions below, I calculated 1.95 years, which would have been good for #63 in D-1 this year. Of course, the more our older guys play, the higher our average D-1 experience goes next year.

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I've written about it on here some, but above-average continuity and retention have been good indicators for a championship team in recent history. Of the last 5 champions, the lowest average D-1 experience was Kansas in 2022 (2.1 years) and the lowest minutes continuity was Michigan this year (31.6%). The only team to fall below the D-1 average in either stat was UConn's continuity in 2023 (33.2%).

Find a bit more about these stats in what I wrote during the final four here:

The Final Four

Wildly over-reading Kenpom imho There was an equivalent gap between teams in Torvik, in Haslam, and in EvanMiya. There was a clear top 8 for much of the year, and it effectively played out in the tournament, aside from Iowa State being minus their best player and Duke being minus an effective...
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#202      
mysterio2525
is Quentin Coleman ty Rodgers with a shot? the rebounding, playmaking, athleticism and dawg factor is impressive from the highlights
 
#204      
Illinirog70
mysterio2525 said:
is Quentin Coleman ty Rodgers with a shot? the rebounding, playmaking, athleticism and dawg factor is impressive from the highlights
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Ty and Q are at opposite ends of the body type spectrum. And they rebound differently. Q is very quick and gets to the ball before others and then busts out to fly down the court. But he also gets bounced around a lot by his own age group opponents.

Ty is muscular and a fighter and will battle for every ball. Two or three inches taller, he'd be a great power forward. Two or three inches taller, Q would be a great wing.

The only thing comparable is their hustle. Oh and the GREATEST difference is only one of them can shoot!

That's why Ty is now playing down a level and we're still looking for a 4th front court player.
 
#205      
RollChief
mysterio2525 said:
is Quentin Coleman ty Rodgers with a shot? the rebounding, playmaking, athleticism and dawg factor is impressive from the highlights
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Can't speak for the comparison, but the rebounding stats alone so far are off the charts for a guard. Just for reference, this is how he stacks up against the top rebounding guard for other USA U18 teams:

RBG
Quentin Coleman (2026) - 12.3
Trey McKenney (2024) - 5.3
Anthony Black (2022) - 7.8
Josiah-Jordan James (2018) - 6.0
Matt Coleman (2016) - 4.6

Here's how he stacks up against the top rebounder for each roster (so far):

Quentin Coleman (2026) - 12.3
Morez Johnson Jr (2024) - 9.0
G.G. Jackson (2022) - 8.0
Jeremiah Robinson-Earl (2018) - 8.5
Jarrett Allen (2016) - 9.0

We'll see where his average ends up after the end of the tournament, but so far the hustle stats he's been able to put up so far are beyond encouraging.
 
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Fly Illini Fly!
RollChief said:
Can't speak for the comparison, but the rebounding stats alone so far are off the charts for a guard. Just for reference, this is how he stacks up against the top rebounding guard for other USA U18 teams:

RBG
Quentin Coleman (2026) - 12.3
Trey McKenney (2024) - 5.3
Anthony Black (2022) - 7.8
Josiah-Jordan James (2018) - 6.0
Matt Coleman (2016) - 4.6

Here's how he stacks up against the top rebounder for each roster (so far):

Quentin Coleman (2026) - 12.3
Morez Johnson Jr (2024) - 9.0
G.G. Jackson (2022) - 8.0
Jeremiah Robinson-Earl (2018) - 8.5
Jarrett Allen (2016) - 9.0

We'll see where his average ends up after the end of the tournament, but so far the hustle stats he's been able to put up so far are beyond encouraging.
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So, he has 37 rebounds thru 3 games.

He only needs 13 more (in the remaining two games) to average 10 per game -- which no one on that list has done.

And he only needs 8 more to get to 9 per game (which would match Morez and Allen).

Keep in mind he's a 6"4 guard.
 
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hoopsfan47
ptgrd23 said:
Good news is our guards are BIG

I think Vaaks and Coleman are CG, Morillo is a PG and Brown is a SG

Vaaks SOP, Coleman FR , Morillo FR Brown FR

We are young in the backincourt.
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FIFY...and that is somewhat of a concern. Much depends upon how quickly the freshman can become dependable and confident. From what we have seen from QC, he brings a big head start in both to the table and is quite coachable. Brown will be challenged physically, but who knows. Morillo remains a mystery but convinced the staff that there is a reason to have him on the roster. He may be the most intriguing mystery, along with Vaaks. A lot of coaching to be done and pieces to fit together.
 
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NarrowJ
hoopsfan47 said:
FIFY...and that is somewhat of a concern.
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Interesting

Coleman will be same age this season as Wagler was

You know what's crazy is sophomore Stefan Vaaks is a year older than senior Boswell was last year

Andrej and Jake also a year older

Morillo will be 19 in October, but he's more toward the back of the rotation
 
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jamarvelous31
NarrowJ said:
25-26:

Wagler 18
Boswell 20
Stojakovic 21
Mirkovic 19
T.Ivisic 22
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J.Davis 20
Humrichous 23
Z.Ivisic 22

Avg age of starters: 20.0
Avg age of top 8: 20.6

26-27:

Vaaks 21
Coleman 18
Stojakovic 22
Mirkovic 20
T.Ivisic 23
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J.Davis 21
L.Morillo 19
Z.Ivisic 23

Avg age of starters: 20.8
Avg age of top 8: 20.9
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What about when you factor in the 9th man?
 
#211      
Fly Illini Fly!
RollChief said:
Quentin Coleman (2026) - 12.3
Morez Johnson Jr (2024) - 9.0
G.G. Jackson (2022) - 8.0
Jeremiah Robinson-Earl (2018) - 8.5
Jarrett Allen (2016) - 9.0
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2014 — Tyler Lyndon 6.4
2012 — Julius Randle 6.6
2010 — Quincy Cortez Miller 9.2
2008 — Ja Mychal Alonso Green 8.4
2006 — Michael Beasley 8.3

….

Yes, QC thru 3 games is at 12.3
 
#214      
Fly Illini Fly!
Found all the stats. Here's the full leaderboard (rebounding):
RollChief said:
Quentin Coleman (2026) - 12.3
Morez Johnson Jr (2024) - 9.0
G.G. Jackson (2022) - 8.0
Jeremiah Robinson-Earl (2018) - 8.5
Jarrett Allen (2016) - 9.0
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Fly Illini Fly! said:
2014 — Tyler Lyndon 6.4
2012 — Julius Randle 6.6
2010 — Quincy Cortez Miller 9.2
2008 — Ja Mychal Alonso Green 8.4
2006 — Michael Beasley 8.3
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2002 -- Chris Bosh 9.2
1998 -- Quentin Richardson 6.3
1994 -- Shareef Abdur Rahim 10.1
1990 -- Ed O'Bannon AND Luther Wright 6.3

Two more games left for QC, but obviously off to a tremendous start. What's amazing is that all these guys are 6"9+, while he's doing it at 6"4.
 
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Fly Illini Fly!
RollChief said:
To your point, we will in fact be "older" next season than we were this season, and perhaps a better way to illustrate this is through KenPom's "D-1 Experience" stat.

Last year, our average D-1 Experience was 1.64 years, which was good for #130 out of 365 D-1 teams. The KP calculation is proprietary but I was able to replicate 2025-2026 in an excel model that I then used to project 2026-2027's D-1 Experience, and using the assumptions below, I calculated 1.95 years, which would have been good for #63 in D-1 this year. Of course, the more our older guys play, the higher our average D-1 experience goes next year.

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I've written about it on here some, but above-average continuity and retention have been good indicators for a championship team in recent history. Of the last 5 champions, the lowest average D-1 experience was Kansas in 2022 (2.1 years) and the lowest minutes continuity was Michigan this year (31.6%). The only team to fall below the D-1 average in either stat was UConn's continuity in 2023 (33.2%).

Find a bit more about these stats in what I wrote during the final four here:

The Final Four

Wildly over-reading Kenpom imho There was an equivalent gap between teams in Torvik, in Haslam, and in EvanMiya. There was a clear top 8 for much of the year, and it effectively played out in the tournament, aside from Iowa State being minus their best player and Duke being minus an effective...
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Vaaks only 24mpg??
 
#217      
KingWolf11
It is a lot easier to be aggressive on the boards when you aren't always on the ball. Vaaks will be in Keatons role Quentin will be in Kylans. He is not the on ball defender Kylan is but everything else is significantly better.

I love Kylan but him playing off ball without being able to throw a rock in the ocean was so painful for the ceiling for last years team.
 
#219      
Brosky
It is a lot easier to be aggressive on the boards when you aren't always on the ball. Vaaks will be in Keatons role Quentin will be in Kylans. He is not the on ball defender Kylan is but everything else is significantly better.

I love Kylan but him playing off ball without being able to throw a rock in the ocean was so painful for the ceiling for last years team.
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#220      
PleaseMakeABowlGame
KingWolf11 said:
It is a lot easier to be aggressive on the boards when you aren't always on the ball. Vaaks will be in Keatons role Quentin will be in Kylans. He is not the on ball defender Kylan is but everything else is significantly better.

I love Kylan but him playing off ball without being able to throw a rock in the ocean was so painful for the ceiling for last years team.
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Pre injury Boswell was pretty good.

Late in the year, he was a zero/negative offensively.
 
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