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Lincoln and the surrounding area is quite a bit more populous than the CU area and Omaha is less than 60 miles away.
The Omaha metro area has over a million people and Lincoln over 200k. That is a lot of people under two hours away and no major sports team around for hours plus no other college teams competing for fans until you get to Norman, Boulder, Ames/Iowa City

Combine all that with their history you have a sellout streak since 1962
 
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I don’t think location and relation to recruiting hotbeds has as much to do with program success as it used to.

Extreme example, but if Nebraska’s passionate fan base whipped together $10 million and said we’re paying 85 scholarships and the next best 15 walkons 100k per year, do you think they’d have trouble recruiting?

This is the world we live in now and the lens that we have to view recruiting through.

Remember kids from all over the country and world come to an icy, snowy town with really muggy summers in the middle of corn fields in Illinois to play basketball because we have a good NIL program, and develop our players.
 
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Perry, Law and Lovie in recent history.
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If I was Nebraska AD I would offer

1. Luke Fickell Cincinnati makes $5M/year
2. Lane Kiffin (appears to have learned from Raiders, Tenn, and USC fiascos). Battle tested at Missisipi State. Makes $7.5M
3. Bill O'Brien - was 8-4 his one season at Penn State. Sexy choice due to NFL experience OC at Patriots and head coach of Texans. Doubt he would stay long term.
4. Dave Aranda Baylor - 11-2 last year $6M/year

If you make a $10M offer with $5m NIL budget I think you can get one of the four
 
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Mr. Tibbs

southeast DuPage
If I was Nebraska AD I would offer

1. Luke Fickell Cincinnati makes $5M/year
2. Lane Kiffin (appears to have learned from Raiders, Tenn, and USC fiascos). Battle tested at Missisipi State. Makes $7.5M
3. Bill O'Brien - was 8-4 his one season at Penn State. Sexy choice due to NFL experience OC at Patriots and head coach of Texans. Doubt he would stay long term.
4. Dave Aranda Baylor - 11-2 last year $6M/year

If you make a $10M offer with $5m NIL budget I think you can get one of the four
Kiffin is at Ole Miss
not sure, from his view, he is a good fit for Nebraska or the B1G.
The other 3 guys you listed , along with Campbell, are all basically in the B12 , and a move to B1G is a step up
 
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If I was Nebraska AD I would offer

1. Luke Fickell Cincinnati makes $5M/year
2. Lane Kiffin (appears to have learned from Raiders, Tenn, and USC fiascos). Battle tested at Missisipi State. Makes $7.5M
3. Bill O'Brien - was 8-4 his one season at Penn State. Sexy choice due to NFL experience OC at Patriots and head coach of Texans. Doubt he would stay long term.
4. Dave Aranda Baylor - 11-2 last year $6M/year

If you make a $10M offer with $5m NIL budget I think you can get one of the four

So admittedly I know nothing about how this works but a quick google search
Frost, their prodical son, was making 5mil before he took a pay cut
Harbaugh is at 7.5mil
Ryan Day is making 7.6
Saben is making 10.7

Is it realistic to believe they are going to shell out 10mil?
I guess I could see them going to 6 or maybe 7 mil for the right guy
 
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Never realized it until now but Lane Kiffin was born in.....Lincoln, Nebraska. I know his dad went to Nebraska, coached on staff, etc. Pretty much would have been born and stayed in Lincoln for a year until Monte left for the next job.
 
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mhuml32

Cincinnati, OH

We can hate on Fleck but his lack of national recognition for any blue blood openings is simple: he hasn't had a dynamite season at Minnesota yet. 2019 was close (he was starting to get buzz) but missed the conference title game with a couple losses down the stretch.

He'll get serious buzz if they win the West this year. They have some tough road games but avoid UM and OSU, this is their ideal schedule to make that breakthrough.

Also, recruiting is a slimy business. PJ undoubtedly leans into it. I would argue his recruiting approach will work better at a top tier program than it does at a B1G West program.

Lastly, him leaving would be good news for Illinois football.
 
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Joel Goodson

ties will be resolved
We can hate on Fleck but his lack of national recognition for any blue blood openings is simple: he hasn't had a dynamite season at Minnesota yet. 2019 was close (he was starting to get buzz) but missed the conference title game with a couple losses down the stretch.

He'll get serious buzz if they win the West this year. They have some tough road games but avoid UM and OSU, this is their ideal schedule to make that breakthrough.

Also, recruiting is a slimy business. PJ undoubtedly leans into it. I would argue his recruiting approach will work better at a top tier program than it does at a B1G West program.

Lastly, him leaving would be good news for Illinois football.

FWLIW, I'd rather watch him flame out at Minny.
 
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We can hate on Fleck but his lack of national recognition for any blue blood openings is simple: he hasn't had a dynamite season at Minnesota yet. 2019 was close (he was starting to get buzz) but missed the conference title game with a couple losses down the stretch.

He'll get serious buzz if they win the West this year. They have some tough road games but avoid UM and OSU, this is their ideal schedule to make that breakthrough.

Also, recruiting is a slimy business. PJ undoubtedly leans into it. I would argue his recruiting approach will work better at a top tier program than it does at a B1G West program.

Lastly, him leaving would be good news for Illinois football.
Any chance he's Ron Zook? I'd like him to stay.

But props to his PR team to actually get his name in this conversation. Ridiculous.
 
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mhuml32

Cincinnati, OH
Wait! Doesn’t that violate Title IX?

Title IX goes by individual, not team, opportunity. Almost every NCAA institutional member has more women's sports than men's simply because football will have ~100 participants, meaning those numbers need to be balanced across women's sports. Since women do not have football as a sanctioned sport, you have to increase opportunities through greater scholarship offerings in volleyball/softball/basketball, but also add other sports like field hockey to compensate.
 
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We can hate on Fleck but his lack of national recognition for any blue blood openings is simple: he hasn't had a dynamite season at Minnesota yet. 2019 was close (he was starting to get buzz) but missed the conference title game with a couple losses down the stretch.

He'll get serious buzz if they win the West this year. They have some tough road games but avoid UM and OSU, this is their ideal schedule to make that breakthrough.

Also, recruiting is a slimy business. PJ undoubtedly leans into it. I would argue his recruiting approach will work better at a top tier program than it does at a B1G West program.

Lastly, him leaving would be good news for Illinois football.
Snake oil salesman.
 
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Mr. Tibbs

southeast DuPage
Title IX goes by individual, not team, opportunity. Almost every NCAA institutional member has more women's sports than men's simply because football will have ~100 participants, meaning those numbers need to be balanced across women's sports. Since women do not have football as a sanctioned sport, you have to increase opportunities through greater scholarship offerings in volleyball/softball/basketball, but also add other sports like field hockey to compensate.
yea, mesn football is 85 scholarships. thats the same as about 3-4 womens sports like volleyball, soccer and field hockey/lax

its the main reason we dont have men's swimming, soccer and lax
 
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yea, mesn football is 85 scholarships. thats the same as about 3-4 womens sports like volleyball, soccer and field hockey/lax

its the main reason we dont have men's swimming, soccer and lax
and in a very ridiculous rule, walk ons count on the participation side. So Paxton Warden's presence on the bench requires a woman scholarship player somewhere.
 
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So admittedly I know nothing about how this works but a quick google search
Frost, their prodical son, was making 5mil before he took a pay cut
Harbaugh is at 7.5mil
Ryan Day is making 7.6
Saben is making 10.7

Is it realistic to believe they are going to shell out 10mil?
I guess I could see them going to 6 or maybe 7 mil for the right guy
Nebraska has fired last 3 weak coaches - Riley, Callahan and now Frost.
Very similar to USC who went cheap after Pete Carrill left (Kiffin, Helton, Sarkhasian).
LSU went big time stealing Brian Kelly for $10m/year from ND
ND went cheap with Freeman and loses to Marshall.

If Nebraska is smart they will spend the $10M/ year and get a top 10 coach. Otherwise they will stay mediocre (good for us, bad for B10).
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They used to play both ways in the 50's. My dad went to Illinois and used to tell me about Ray.
He came and talked at our HS sports banquet my senior year.
 
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I'm not expecting either the Kelly or the Freeman hires to really pan out.

Kelly couldn't win big games at Notre Dame, but all of a sudden he's gonna win them at LSU???

Freeman just isn't ready for a job as big as ND.
 
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