St Louis Cardinals 2023

pruman91 · Jul 18, 2023

BenFred: Cardinals, now set to sell, must overcome pitching failures in costly recovery plan

Cardinals president of baseball operations John Mozeliak sounds the same pitching sirens his organization ignored all offseason.

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Cardinals win third in a row, beat Skip Schumaker’s Miami Marlins 6-4 in series opener

Cardinals win third in a row at the expense of former Cardinal Skip Schumaker and the Miami Marlins on Monday night at Busch Stadium.

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Tyler O’Neill slated for activation from IL, to start in left field: Cardinals Extra

Once he is activated from the injured list, Tyler O'Neill will return as the Cardinals starting left fielder as the MLB trade deadline looms.

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Big Jack · Jul 18, 2023

the national said:
https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1680958807113908229

Moves are happening. The ice is breaking.

This guy is talented... Sad to say though he could never throw a strike when it was needed...

BillyBob1 · Jul 18, 2023

Thought they said TON was supposed to be activated today?

Did he hurt himself putting on his jersey?

pruman91 · Jul 18, 2023

Big Jack said:
This guy is talented... Sad to say though he could never throw a strike when it was needed...

wasn't he the one that had a beef on the mound one game when Marmol took him out .....might have been last year, but I remember he ended up apologizing to the team and Marmol........

JK13 · Jul 18, 2023

BillyBob1 said:
Thought they said TON was supposed to be activated today?

Did he hurt himself putting on his jersey?

Guess they're not activating him until Thursday.

JK13 · Jul 18, 2023

I'd probably add Donovan to the list as well.

JK13 · Jul 18, 2023

JK13 said:
I'd probably add Donovan to the list as well.

Well that post didn't go as planned, didn't mean to put that as the link text lol It's Players they shouldn't trade. Honestly there aren't that many I wouldn't be willing to part with.

pruman91 · Jul 18, 2023

Donovan , Gorman , Arenado , Goldie , Walker , Nootbaar aren't going anywhere , if I had any say so in the matter.......

JMHO

BillyBob1 · Jul 18, 2023

Marlins have 4 hits tonight that have been inches from an infielders glove.

BillyBob1 · Jul 18, 2023

pruman91 said:
Donovan , Gorman , Arenado , Goldie , Walker , Nootbaar aren't going anywhere , if I had any say so in the matter.......

JMHO

I would add Edman to that list.

JK13 · Jul 18, 2023

pruman91 said:
Donovan , Gorman , Arenado , Goldie , Walker , Nootbaar aren't going anywhere , if I had any say so in the matter.......

JMHO

I'd be fine with moving Noot but it would have to be a pretty sweet deal. Same goes for Edman.

JK13 · Jul 18, 2023

BillyBob1 said:
Marlins have 4 hits tonight that have been inches from an infielders glove.

Frustrating

pruman91 · Jul 18, 2023

Goldie with only 49 RBI's at this stage of the season concerns me ......I know he has above average stats in a lot of area's but he has been striking out more this year,,,,,Of course , following a MVP year previously is hard to maintain that production......

BillyBob1 · Jul 18, 2023

How many times can Contreras swing at pitches a foot or more out of the strike zone?

Ryllini · Jul 18, 2023

BillyBob1 said:
How many times can Contreras swing at pitches a foot or more out of the strike zone?

How many games to we have left, 69 or so? I'll set that number at 74 more times.

IlliniFaninHoosierLand · Jul 18, 2023

BillyBob1 said:
How many times can Contreras swing at pitches a foot or more out of the strike zone?

Can pretty much say the same thing about De Jong and, to a certain extent, Gorman at this point.

BillyBob1 · Jul 18, 2023

IlliniFaninHoosierLand said:
Can pretty much say the same thing about De Jong and, to a certain extent, Gorman at this point.

That’s true, but at least Gorman has produced significantly more.

I think Romero is the reason they made the left-handed pitching move.

Ryllini · Jul 18, 2023

Nado nuked that thing

pruman91 · Jul 18, 2023

THATS A WINNER !!!!!!!!

Arenado with a 3 run bomb in bottom of the 10th to get the win for the Cardinals 5-2.................

Nado with the big hit
Hicks getting out of first & third dilemma with nobody out was excellent......
Jo Jo Romero with an excellent top of 10th relief outing...............................

Go for the sweep tomorrow afternoon..........

let's go Cardinals.............................

the national · Jul 18, 2023

pruman91 said:
THATS A WINNER !!!!!!!!

Arenado with a 3 run bomb in bottom of the 10th to get the win for the Cardinals 5-2.................

Nado with the big hit
Hicks getting out of first & third dilemma with nobody out was excellent......
Jo Jo Romero with an excellent top of 10th relief outing...............................

Go for the sweep tomorrow afternoon..........

let's go Cardinals.............................

pruman91 · Jul 19, 2023

Focused on winning ‘now,’ Nolan Arenado crushes walk-off homer to carry Cardinals to win

Arenado's fourth career walk-off homer gives Cardinals a 5-2 victory against Miami and their fourth consecutive win as trade considerations engulf team.

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Adam Wainwright feels strides with health, optimism club can make charge: Cardinals Extra

After a 30-pitch bullpen session, Adam Wainwright is scheduled to throw a live batting practice session next week during the Cardinals' trip to Arizona.

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Tipsheet: Brewers have extra motivation to win NL Central, make deep playoff run

The Milwaukee Brewers sent a clear message by throttling the upstart Cincinnati Reds over the weekend.

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IllinoisRebel · Jul 19, 2023

Most news outlets are insinuating that Tyler O'Neil being given the left field spot when he returns means Dylan Carlson will probably be traded. It sounds like Dylan was pretty dejected in his after the game interview a couple of nights ago. Having said that, if I were the Cardinals, wouldn't I want to play Tyler and show he is healthy, so I could trade him? I personally think Tyler is the one the Cardinals would rather trade?!

Thought #2... Tyler O'Neil isn't bringing much back in trade negotiations and Dylan Carlson brings a too good to refuse trade package...see ya, Dylan!

What I'm trying to say is, I'd rather keep Carlson over O'Neil if possible. What do you you guys think?

Knee brace · Jul 19, 2023

IllinoisRebel said:
Most news outlets are insinuating that Tyler O'Neil being given the left field spot when he returns means Dylan Carlson will probably be traded. It sounds like Dylan was pretty dejected in his after the game interview a couple of nights ago. Having said that, if I were the Cardinals, wouldn't I want to play Tyler and show he is healthy, so I could trade him? I personally think Tyler is the one the Cardinals would rather trade?!

Thought #2... Tyler O'Neil isn't bringing much back in trade negotiations and Dylan Carlson brings a too good to refuse trade package...see ya, Dylan!

What I'm trying to say is, I'd rather keep Carlson over O'Neil if possible. What do you you guys think?

100% rather have Carlson. TON too injury prone

pruman91 · Jul 19, 2023

IllinoisRebel said:
Most news outlets are insinuating that Tyler O'Neil being given the left field spot when he returns means Dylan Carlson will probably be traded. It sounds like Dylan was pretty dejected in his after the game interview a couple of nights ago. Having said that, if I were the Cardinals, wouldn't I want to play Tyler and show he is healthy, so I could trade him? I personally think Tyler is the one the Cardinals would rather trade?!

Thought #2... Tyler O'Neil isn't bringing much back in trade negotiations and Dylan Carlson brings a too good to refuse trade package...see ya, Dylan!

What I'm trying to say is, I'd rather keep Carlson over O'Neil if possible. What do you you guys think?

It would not surprise me at all in seeing both TON and Carlson traded...............Nootbaar and Edman ( when healthy ) can cover centerfield...........Walker in right field , and Burleson in left field.......

Burleson has more hitting potential than Carlson , IMHO
Walker is in right field until he fails........doubtful he fails.....too good of a dominant tool package......
Nootbaar , being lefthanded AB , has similar defensive abilities as Carlson........
Edman and Donovan to fill in anywhere except centerfield for Donovan ( I bet he could handle it )
Yepez and others in the minor leagues should be ready to make a jump

TON has worn out his welcome with less than maximum effort , according to Marmol , and has NOT shown the ability to stay healthy........................I would love to see a healthy TON playing 130 + games a year with his offensive power and Gold Glove defense , but will he ever regain that one highly productive year ??..............

I also wonder if the Cardinals plan on trading both Montgomery and Flaherty ??..............................
It wouldn't surprise me for a contract extension agreement coming to fruition for either pitcher.....I also realize that both are already being discussed with potential trade partners..........

I just want someone to make sound trade decisions for the Cardinals and hope that Randy Flores has a major say in what transpires............................

JMHO

GILL-INOIS · Jul 19, 2023

pruman91 said:
Goldie with only 49 RBI's at this stage of the season concerns me ......I know he has above average stats in a lot of area's but he has been striking out more this year,,,,,Of course , following a MVP year previously is hard to maintain that production......

Coming into today his strikeout rate of 21.7% is exactly the same rate he had during his MVP season last season. Slow bat speed at times and reaching makes it seem worse than it actually is.

I have no problems with Donovan at leadoff but Goldy was smashing with Nootbaar in the leadoff spot earlier in the season. Earlier in the season when Nootbaar was leadoff and Goldy was batting 2nd they played 28 games in that order. Think Cardinals were only 1-2 games below .500 during those games and Goldy hit 9 HRs and 18 RBI.