St Louis Cardinals 2026

#951      
This season is fools gold. Sell Noot, Jo Jo, Riley and Matthew L at the deadline. Should have traded Jo Jo last year. His value has dropped.

They are all journeymen

Noots 6th year in the majors he is a lifetime .243 hitter with limited power. He is a league average player.

Matthew L 5th year - lifetime 4.71 era and 21-30 record.
Liberatore has no trade value and isn't making a bunch of money - he's not going anywhere. He's been relatively durable, just keep working with him over his next 3 arbitration years. They'll need innings next year anyway.

Noot has been on pace for a 4 fWAR season (literally double league average, won't get there because he was hurt to start the year), he's one of the better players on the team. I'm not sure what kind of value he would have mid-season, he's likely an off season trade (after they see how a full year of Baez ends up being in AAA). But I assume they're getting pretty close to wanting to compete this offseason, so doubt they trade him.

The 3 players I'm 100% certain they will trade at the deadline - JoJo, Riley and Dustin May. Always trade relievers, and the whole reason they signed Dustin May was to trade him - it'll be a miracle if he's still healthy come 8/3, better cash that lottery ticket quick.
 
#952      
I was responding to the use of batting average, which treats singles as a good outcome and treats walks as a non-event. The reason this is bad is that a walk is definitely a good outcome! It gives credit to a good outcome! Noot has the 3rd best OBP on the team this season, incidentally. (Herrera, another player the original poster had downplayed in the past based on BA, leads the team with a phenomenal .381).

Now, of course a walk is not the best outcome, which would be a home run, and isn't as good as a double or triple either. That's why SLG is also a good stat to look. Funny enough, Noot has the 5th best SLG on the team this season.

Even better is combining those two stats, in the form of OPS. Noot is 4th on the team in OPS this season.

Noot is a very good player who can't seem to get a break health-wise. I'd be perfectly fine trading him for a good return. I'd be perfectly fine trading him if we don't intend to compete next season. But if we want to be competitive in 2027 we need to shore up the OF and Noot, even if he's not dependable as an every day player, provides good value in the OF when healthy. If you can get half a season of games out of him that's probably better than what you can find for the same price in the free agent market. It might be an entirely different conversation if we had a ton of OF talent in the system but VS2 has been struggling, Church is not a starting OF on a contending team, and other than Baez we don't really have much relief coming through the pipeline. The biggest need we have is pitching, so if there's going to be any free agent dollars they should go there, which means that unless Noot can bring in at least a middle rotation arm we probably need to keep him as a cost-effective OF solution. And do we really think he could bring in a middle rotation arm with the current premium on pitching and his injury history?
I did not say a walk is a non-event. If you thought I did I apologize. In my playing days I lived off walks.
My comment was that not all walks and all singles are the same.
Leadoff batter who singles or walks is an equal outcome.
Bottom of the 9th, 2 outs, down by 1 with runners on second and third, a single is the better outcome. The OBP statistically will reflect them as having the same outcome but they are not equal.
I also have no criticism of Noot as a player.
 
#953      
Anybody who played baseball knows their is a huge difference between someone who gets walks vs. somebody who gets a hit which can and usually drive in runs.
Lars is a nice player

Injury prone - Last 4 years - 108, 117, 109, 135 games played. Only played 32 of 95 games this year YTD
BA Last 4 years .228, .261, .244, .234
Not an RBI guy Last 4 years 40, 46, 45, 48
OK power SLG last 4 years .448. .418m .417, .361
Doesn't steal bases
Gets walks

This is his 6th year in MLB. Change of location might be beneficial to both Cards and Noot
 
#954      
Noot is a decent guy to have on your team as a 4th OF/platoon type. He's not a starting corner OF and has proved it multiple times. Also injury prone. Likely expendable as soon as a better player comes along.
 
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