Terrence Shannon Jr. suspended

Whitmans Sampler · Dec 29, 2023

Walk into any college bar and you’ll hear dudes left & right lying about where they work, what they study, if they’re an athlete (usually intramurals or club, but they’ll conveniently leave that part out). A little shady, yes, but they’re not breaking the law.

LvilleILL · Dec 29, 2023

Some recent developments that I have heard on my end....Illinois thinks that they can get him reinstated. If the story I heard lines up, this is complete BS

Again, this is still a developing situation

OrangeNBlueLoyal · Dec 29, 2023

illiniballknower said:
That's what I was saying. I apologize if I was not clear.

I just re-read what you posted and like a few others seem to have not read the end of your post... my apologies

Poe's Law · Dec 29, 2023

Source and charge your battery!

Champaign88 · Dec 29, 2023

zentrails said:
That "fingering" reply doesn't appear in Bret Beherns post and it appears to be a troll account of some (really weird) sort.

It’s a reply to his post…

And the timing is very interesting with the comments from Lville about there being an uproar if the story he has heard is true and that TSJ could be back before end of season (he didn’t explicitly say the last part, just that it’s not out of the question essentially).

I mean if this is the truth, it will absolutely cause an uproar.

If this is the story… and whether TSJ told this girl he was a football player, or she asked and he said yes, or she just thought he was a football player… and then she consented to this act occurring, but later found out he wasn’t a football player, I don’t see how there is a case here at all to be honest. She’s totally okay with someone she doesn’t know doing this to her in a public place, but only because they’re some random football player?

I mean it is a little hard to believe, but it’s certainly in line with causing an uproar if it’s true.

Thaillini22 · Dec 29, 2023

LvilleILL said:
Some recent developments that I have heard on my end....Illinois thinks that they can get him reinstated. If the story I heard lines up, this is complete BS

Again, this is still a developing situation

Please please please please please... !!!

Oldskoolkoach · Dec 29, 2023

LvilleILL said:
Some recent developments that I have heard on my end....Illinois thinks that they can get him reinstated. If the story I heard lines up, this is complete BS

Again, this is still a developing situation

Well, now that I've had 6, 7, 0r 8 double bourbon on the rocks, I can't get up to go to bed, so I'll just smile at the possibility from this valued insider information

Illiniam1984 · Dec 29, 2023

Delete

zentrails · Dec 29, 2023

Champaign88 said:
It’s a reply to his post…

Nope, look at Beherns account (https://twitter.com/WCIA3Bret) and you can see all the replies and it does not appear there, it's a photoshop job.

WeWillWhen · Dec 29, 2023

PNWIllini said:
The number of people declaring TSJ’s Illinois career over before hearing all the facts is … disappointing.

The season is over in three months. Cases don’t go to trial that fast. The only way this resolves in TSJ’s favor before then is if the DA dismisses the charges, which seems unlikely to me at this point.

zentrails · Dec 29, 2023

Whitmans Sampler said:
Walk into any college bar and you’ll hear dudes left & right lying about where they work, what they study, if they’re an athlete (usually intramurals or club, but they’ll conveniently leave that part out). A little shady, yes, but they’re not breaking the law.

When I was in the Navy I had a "friend" who (in a crowded bar) liked to reach around me and grab a woman part making them think it was me. He thought it was hilarious.

Illini231 · Dec 29, 2023

zentrails said:
Nope, look at Beherns account (https://twitter.com/WCIA3Bret) and you can see all the replies and it does not appear there, it's a photoshop job.

for me I had to click on the "see more replies" button for it to come up

Champaign88 · Dec 29, 2023

zentrails said:
Nope, look at Beherns account (https://twitter.com/WCIA3Bret) and you can see all the replies and it does not appear there, it's a photoshop job.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1740485982296944659

It’s a reply to this tweet. You have to click on show more replies to see it, at least I did.

SKane · Dec 29, 2023

Here is a link to the Kansas law requiring prompt trials in criminal cases.

Basically it looks like the general rule is 180 days when there is an appearance bond.

Statute | Kansas State Legislature

kslegislature.org

sportsfan2608 · Dec 29, 2023

zentrails said:
Nope, look at Beherns account (https://twitter.com/WCIA3Bret) and you can see all the replies and it does not appear there, it's a photoshop job.

I can see it in Bret's replies on twitter

dgcrow · Dec 29, 2023

What a shame. Guilty or innocent, what a shame.

hiberto · Dec 29, 2023

Champaign88 said:
It’s a reply to his post…

And the timing is very interesting with the comments from Lville about there being an uproar if the story he has heard is true and that TSJ could be back before end of season (he didn’t explicitly say the last part, just that it’s not out of the question essentially).

I mean if this is the truth, it will absolutely cause an uproar.

If this is the story… and whether TSJ told this girl he was a football player, or she asked and he said yes, or she just thought he was a football player… and then she consented to this act occurring, but later found out he wasn’t a football player, I don’t see how there is a case here at all to be honest. She’s totally okay with someone she doesn’t know doing this to her in a public place, but only because they’re some random football player?

I mean it is a little hard to believe, but it’s certainly in line with causing an uproar if it’s true.

he was wearing a Johnny Newton jersey so that and TSJ's build could make it plausible to her that he was actually an illini football player, IF the tweet actually has merit

Tables@EddieMunster · Dec 29, 2023

nichi said:
I'm not either, but I play one on the Internet.

Today is the day for it, friend.

Champaign88 · Dec 29, 2023

hiberto said:
he was wearing a Johnny Newton jersey so that and TSJ's build could make it plausible to her that he was actually an illini football player, IF the tweet actually has merit

And assuming that he wore the jersey to the bar and didn’t change into something else.

Whitmans Sampler · Dec 29, 2023

zentrails said:
When I was in the Navy I had a "friend" who (in a crowded bar) liked to reach around me and grab a woman part making them think it was me. He thought it was hilarious.

Ahhh, not cool. I would’ve ditched that “friend” quickly.

RabidDawgClassic · Dec 29, 2023

Champaign88 said:
And assuming that he wore the jersey to the bar and didn’t change into something else.

It was a night game, so I would think it’s likely they’d go right to the bars after the game and not go back to the hotel to change. But that’s just speculation on my part.

zentrails · Dec 29, 2023

Illini231 said:
for me I had to click on the "see more replies" button for it to come up

Yeah you're right I didn't click that, still if you look at "bro"'s posts - you'll see some real crazy stuff
And it's not actually a reply - it's a photo of a tweet with no link to identify it's origin.

zentrails · Dec 29, 2023

Whitmans Sampler said:
Ahhh, not cool. I would’ve ditched that “friend” quickly.

I quit going to bars with him after he told me he was doing that LOL unfortunately we were in the same division so I couldn't ditch him until I got my honorable discharge.

AutoPoster 3000 · Dec 29, 2023

nichi said:
If that ADA charged force based on misrepresenting himself as a football player; then she is incompetent.

There’s a 0% chance that’s what is happening.

There is no DA in America that would charge forcible sexual intercourse without evidence of forcible sexual intercourse. It may be strong evidence or it may be weak evidence. It could be just the allegations from the victim that nobody else can corroborate. The charge might be based on evidence that completely falls apart upon closer scrutiny. But there will be something of an evidentiary nature to support the charge at least at this point in time. Because if there isn’t, that DA is going to be disgraced and quite possibly disbarred. Especially in a case that is so high profile and in attracting so much attention.

Somebody mentioned Mike Nifong and the Duke lacrosse case. Keep reading the Wikipedia page all the way to the bottom and see what happened to that guy.

A lot of things could happen from here and total vindication for Shannon is always a possibility but that’s something that would happen at the end of a very long and twisted road. If the DIA thinks this mess gets cleaned up in the short term with some miracle alibi that makes this all disappear, that strikes me as delusional.

AutoPoster 3000 · Dec 29, 2023

SKane said:
Here is a link to the Kansas law requiring prompt trials in criminal cases.

Basically it looks like the general rule is 180 days when there is an appearance bond.

Statute | Kansas State Legislature

kslegislature.org

That 180 days doesn’t account for excluded time.

Excluded time is generally any adjournments requested by or consented to by the defense. Which is most of them. Also, time for motion practice, discovery requests, etc.

In other words, that 180 days means almost nothing, and most major felony trials take place a year or sometimes several years after the initial arrest.