Illwinsagain
- Cary, IL
"Shock"ingly, no.
I see what you did there...clever. :thumb:
"Shock"ingly, no.
It's definitely not a fact, but a couple things point that way:
1) most of our class has already said or implied they want to stay with Illinois
2) Martin has already been recruiting Smith
3) by all accounts, Martin is a good recruiter
4) it's common for kids to remain faithful to a school even when there's a coaching change
If you have guys already committed to a school, who have been thinking about that school for months, buying clothes, talking about getting down to Champaign, etc., it's likely easier for them to see reasons to stay committed than to request a release, reopen their recruitment and then find a new home where they'd feel more comfortable (and have a scholarship open) in the span of 3 months. They like each other, they've talked excitedly about playing together, they like the school, they are local (aside from Trent, who has already said he's in no matter what), and they're likely to like Cuonzo.
All that points to a strong change to keep them all together. But no, it's not a fact. And I also believe that the odds are good the class remains intact no matter WHO is our next coach.
And I don't want it to be Cuonzo.
I hope you're right. I really do."Shock"ingly, no.
Is it going to be a whoever gets bounced out in the first round we throw money at? Need to move quickly
I think Finebaum has a good source. It's Cuonzo Martin himself. It would look good on Missouri if he says he turned down a hefty offer from Illinois to coach Missouri. He's lying.
Is it really worth starting a fight with Illinois on the first day to appease some subset of Mizzou boosters who will like the new coach more if Illinois went after him?
Swing and a miss, strike two...
What's the downside?
I hope you're right. I really do.
What's the downside?
semantics, people were talked to, temperatures were taken, what ever sport terminology you are comfortable with.
If JW didn't take that temperature, he wouldn't be doing his job.
You're 100% speculating.
You just described about 96% of this thread.
It's not semantics. Monty Williams people took our temperature. We were interested but not ready to pull the trigger. He decided to save face with his current employer. But an offer was never made. Just as an offer was never made to Cuonzo.
Neither of them were our first or second choice in this whole thing but if you want to consider people being talked to then yea sure go ahead.. just know that a whole bunch of other people higher on our list were and are being talked to at the same time.
So if UNCW beats Virginia then it could be Bennett by early next week or Keatts or Marshall if Wichita loses early? I think Archie is going either to Indiana or NC State if Crean gets fired.
It's not semantics. Monty Williams people took our temperature. We were interested but not ready to pull the trigger. He decided to save face with his current employer. But an offer was never made. Just as an offer was never made to Cuonzo.
Neither of them were our first or second choice in this whole thing but if you want to consider people being talked to then yea sure go ahead.. just know that a whole bunch of other people higher on our list were and are being talked to at the same time.
You just described about 96% of this thread.
So who gets hired and when? I say its Bennett or Keatts and it happens by Wednesday next week.
That's a generous number.You just described about 96% of this thread.
So like.... do we really want Tony Bennett?
Hypothetically, we hire Keatts (I wouldn't be upset about this). Do we now have to overpay for him because Cuonzo is getting 3-3.5 from Miznoz?