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I think it's something like how much better or worse you are than the middle/average team. So + is better than average, - is worse. Higher number is farther from average.
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Jack Coan is from New York so I wouldn't get your hopes up there
altenberger22
- South Carolina
I agree. And I just can't see IW being our QB under Bielema. I hope he stays, and I hope we benefit from his athleticism for another 3-4 years -- but I speculate it will be at WR.
Fully expecting the 2021 roster to be a major overhaul, and I hope it's 40% improved over 2020. (Naturally, that improvement will come from transfers-in, transfers-out, a couple of new/unexpected HS recruits and the extension of several of our current seniors for one additional year.)
ChiefGritty
- Chicago, IL
Well first of all I should post a link to Football Outsiders, who puts these together.
And F+ is in fact a mashup of Bill Connelly's SP+ and Brian Fremeau's FEI, two different stathead rankings that are slightly different from one another. Which is good, incorporating multiple perspectives makes things more robust.
But the basic idea is looking at per play and per possession efficiency, adjusted for schedule strength and home/road, and tossing out garbage time possessions. So basically, how well are you able to move the ball and prevent the ball being moved, relative to the difficulty of the games you're playing?
So it's even a little more under the hood than something like KenPom in basketball which is (I believe, correct me if I'm wrong) derived entirely from just what the final score is, then adjusted for opponent quality and location. F+ gets a little deeper into how well you actually play.
It's the gold standard for college football. (Football Outsiders is also the gold standard for NFL analytics if you're into that). It knows when you laid an egg and had to struggle to beat a bad cupcake. It knows when you gave a great team a really difficult fight.
Oh, yeah, the actual percentages are the deviation from the average team.
Or at least they were, they've changed the units for 2020 which is very annoying and makes apples-to-apples comparisons impossible. The rankings 1-120something work fine enough, but obviously that "average" is a little different every year (I believe Bill Cubit's interim team won the coveted "F+ Closest to FBS Average Team" trophy)
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It is a bit concerning, though I think it is pretty easy to argue that while the titles were the same/similar for Ash and Pittman they weren’t necessarily lateral moves because they did move to better P5 schools. And, in fact, the moves likely helped them get their eventual HC jobs.
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Honestly I'm not going to take a side one way or the other with IW at QB. I want to see it play out. I think BB will actually have a relatively modern offense and IW will get a chance to stick at QB. I lean on the side that he will eventually move to WR, but I kinda think he's going to get his chance at QB.
I think the first thing is the roster. And with this crazy year, the first think he's going to have to do is figure out how to keep the guys he wants that are considering transferring out of here. Then he's going to have to find the guys out in the transfer portal that can come in and contribute immediately, and hit the high school recruiting trail hard. That's a ton to do, and I'm glad it's someone with BB's coaching experience that is taking this on.
Illinivek23
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Buffalo! Now that he thinks LL is staying put!
IW vs Peters isn’t that hard to understand. Lovie liked Peters. Rod Smith liked IW. Saturday Rod was in charge.
ChiefGritty
- Chicago, IL
Given the circumstances that first play/series was really clever.
Did we see recently after the BB hire that IW was basically quoted as saying, "Whatever is asked of me, I'll do." Does this include switching positions?
OCs are usually QB coaches. Swing for the fences: Brandon Streeter, Clemson's QB coach -- he has OC experience. Double his salary to a million. Bring in Nate to learn under him. Streeter probably gone in 2-3 years, but then Nate will be ready. Streeter likely to get elevated when Elliott leaves; may be waiting for that. I'd at last call to gauge his interest. Swing for the fences.
Keep strength Coach Lou. Our football players look like football players and pass the eye test.
altenberger22
- South Carolina
I did see that comment by IW. I read it twice and interpreted as, "I'll run the Illini offense however BB deems most appropriate. If that means rushing 30 times a game, I can handle it. If that instead means passing 45 times a game, I can do that too."
I certainly hope he meant it even more broadly! Heading into his 3rd with the program, I still don't think he can hit 50% of his passes.
mhuml32
- Cincinnati, OH
I know this is taking us further down the rabbit hole but MaxPreps has (surprisingly) comprehensive stats of the 2018 Trinity team and IW is listed as having one tackle for the whole season.
https://www.maxpreps.com/high-schoo...tans-(st-louis,mo)/football-fall-18/stats.htm
Seems pretty unlikely that these stats would imply he was playing defense. I would guess that one tackle was after an offensive turnover.
mhuml32
- Cincinnati, OH
This is where I'm at. Rod knows he's looking for another job next year and wants to showcase his offensive preferences based on playing the QB most aligned with his style. I don't think BP was blindsided (if they truly only walked through the very first play of the game, that's a serious indictment on the interim coaching staff), nor should he base the decisions made from Saturday on his future plans. Bielema is going to have to decide the direction of his offense in the coming weeks and that will lead to one of BP or IW transferring (maybe other QBs will transfer as well, especially if Bielema wants more pure pocket passers).
Here is what Isaiah said when asked if he would be willing to run a different style of offense ....
That is from the Cincy game. He had 2 Tackles in the State game as well.
ChiefGritty
- Chicago, IL
However much he played DB, he was good enough that Alabama offered him. Nick Saban scouts DB's better than any man alive.
Soooo is it still anybody’s guess on who he brings in or retains on the staff? Didn’t know if anyone had heard any names besides the ones guys like werner have thrown out there or connecting the dots with his coaching tree for potential fits.
I'm pretty confident that no one has heard any names from Bielema or from anyone that matters, but on page 2 of this thread Gritty had a really nice list of some of the possible/likely coordinator names.
Exactly my point. Most of his offers were at DB.
Better than LSU
ChiefGritty
- Chicago, IL
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