Tim Beckman no longer a volunteer coach at UNC

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breadman said:
So at the end of the game on 9/10, no matter the outcome, is ESPN going to be there to witness the hand shaking of former and current head coaches???? The fickle finger of fate is rearing its ugly head here for unnamed, unknowing purposes.
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Somebody find Chester Frazier to give Beckman a IDKWTI handshake.
 
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AaronB28

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MadSeason said:
I'm convinced you could let him sit in on every team meeting, coaches meeting and practice and not only would it not help UNC, but it would make us a prohibitive favorite.
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I mean seriously I was p!ssd we even hire Beckman in the first place..from the horrible helmet change to the press conferences.....

At least LOVIE was nice enough to be nice about em lol
 
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rtrotter

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Well, he IS really good at making the Illini lose games, so there is that....
 
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I'm amazed at the level of ridicule for Tim Beckman here. He wasn't up to the job here and made some amazing mistakes, but he definitely knows football, and he knows most of our players, having recruited them. You can't fool anyone into giving you a Big Ten job with endorsements from big name coaches if you aren't in a small percentage of people with very high football knowledge and experience.

As for the media attention, bring it on. It just sheds light on the corner we've turned in credibility of our coaching staff and let's both fans and recruits know this is not the same Illini team.
 
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VAIllini35 said:
Clearly the 'good ol boy network' is alive and well. "I don't believe everything I read alright" says pretty much all you have to know.
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I'm very conflicted on this.

On the one hand, I see Beckman's behavior as awful and clearly fireable. On the other hand, I am not so naive not to know that his actions were just a difference of degree, rather than kind, from what goes on at every other program in America. I do believe Beckman was worse than most, but I know that if he had won more he would have gotten away with it for a long time, possibly forever. It's also probably true that he wouldn't have done some of those things if not for the extreme pressure of being on the hot seat.

And also, honestly, I thought the report against him was kind of a trumped-up hit piece that only ever pointed toward one predetermined conclusion. The footnote throw-ins about Bill Cubit (the only assistant referenced by name IIRC) being a guy who "gets it" were a smoking gun, IMO. This was MT's way out of the mess he made, and he was not subtle about it, even though he had just cause.

So is Beckman so toxic that he should never be a part of another program again? That's a hard question. Never is a long time.

I guess what bugs me about that Fedora story is the way his references to "Beckman's side of the story" and "he just didn't win enough" shows that there is a lack of contrition from Beckman about what he did. If he owned up to his behavior being unacceptable, even in Beckmanian English, I think that would make me feel a lot differently.
 
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Illwinsagain

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TheBucket said:
Beckman did more harm to the program than Eric Gordon - and it's not even close.

I hope he's in the building just so I can boo extra loudly when the Tarheels come out of the locker room.
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Hmmm, Gordon, IMHO, was the beginning of the long staggering death of Weber at UI. Just starting to recover (hopefully) 10 years later.
 
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Mike

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You could say he's being paid $250k by us to be their coach depending on how you view the settlement we gave him earlier this year. So long as we're not paying him to coach here it's money well spent.
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So he's our secret weapon? ;)
 
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Second and Chalmers said:
I'm very conflicted on this.

On the one hand, I see Beckman's behavior as awful and clearly fireable. On the other hand, I am not so naive not to know that his actions were just a difference of degree, rather than kind, from what goes on at every other program in America. I do believe Beckman was worse than most, but I know that if he had won more he would have gotten away with it for a long time, possibly forever. It's also probably true that he wouldn't have done some of those things if not for the extreme pressure of being on the hot seat.

And also, honestly, I thought the report against him was kind of a trumped-up hit piece that only ever pointed toward one predetermined conclusion. The footnote throw-ins about Bill Cubit (the only assistant referenced by name IIRC) being a guy who "gets it" were a smoking gun, IMO. This was MT's way out of the mess he made, and he was not subtle about it, even though he had just cause.

So is Beckman so toxic that he should never be a part of another program again? That's a hard question. Never is a long time.

I guess what bugs me about that Fedora story is the way his references to "Beckman's side of the story" and "he just didn't win enough" shows that there is a lack of contrition from Beckman about what he did. If he owned up to his behavior being unacceptable, even in Beckmanian English, I think that would make me feel a lot differently.
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Agree. On the other hand, when you combine the report with ALL of the other clown-show happenings over the years - he doesn't belong in a D1 program in any capacity - free or otherwise.
 
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Sal Iacuzzo

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If Dave Bliss can coach college sports again I think Tim Beckman can be hired as an unpaid consultant.
 
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FiveStar said:
I doubt he's there to scout. Nothing about our team is the same from from when he was here, scheme-wise. The players are older, stronger, faster and leaner. Oh, and he doesn't know anything about football.

He's just trying to rebuild his rep as a non abusive meathead. That is, until he gets voluntold to go away after he gets flagged for a sideline warning and spits tobacco in a referee's face.
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FiveStar, maybe its just me but when I read your new word "voluntold" I laughed out loud. Well done. :shakehands:
 
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Well, the story made the Yahoo front page (not sports front page, regular front page), so thing is growing legs. Please Beckman hold a press conference and explain yourself. Please, please, please ...
 
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Unnecessary negative attention for UNC but when are they not used to receiving negative attention? At the same time, Beckman does deserve a second chance and it's nice that someone is willing to help provide that to him. Doesn't mean I like Beckman but he didn't murder anyone, he didn't bet on games, and he didn't do anything that warranted getting blacklisted from coaching.

But, if he does end up going back to Champaign, then he is really not very bright(which we all think anyways).
 
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Ransom Stoddard

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I have a feeling a conversation along these lines went down:

TB: Hey Larry, it's Tim
long pause
TB: Tim Beckman....
LF: (sigh) Hey Tim
TB: Hey Larry, you know I'm kind of between jobs right now and lasagna's hard to find. Do you know anyone who could throw me a bone?
LF: Well, our unpaid graduate intern who reviews tape is out with the mumps for a while. How do you feel about reviewing film for us?
TB: Sounds great. What's that come to in terms of lasagna?
LF: It's unpaid Tim. But I've got a coupon for a BOGO at Fazoli's, how's that sound?
TB: That's a deal Larry. BTW, can you make sure my name gets out? I want to make sure people still know that I spend my life around coaches.
LF: No thanks Tim, this is just a temp deal til my guy is back on his feet. No leaks, OK?
 
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TheBucket said:
Beckman did more harm to the program than Eric Gordon - and it's not even close.

I hope he's in the building just so I can boo extra loudly when the Tarheels come out of the locker room.
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I would say that they both got UofI head coaches fired...:tsk:
 
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BZuppke

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IlliniFoLife said:
Unnecessary negative attention for UNC but when are they not used to receiving negative attention? At the same time, Beckman does deserve a second chance and it's nice that someone is willing to help provide that to him. Doesn't mean I like Beckman but he didn't murder anyone, he didn't bet on games, and he didn't do anything that warranted getting blacklisted from coaching.

But, if he does end up going back to Champaign, then he is really not very bright(which we all think anyways).
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Well said. He didn't murder anyone. He's more of a buffoon than anything else.
 
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Again, you can't make this stuff up! Captain Lasagna certainly keeps life interesting for us all.