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It is reality. This should be a warning to any guy out there to be careful. Any of us are one accusation away from your life being over. Whether you are innocent or not, your life is in the hands of a jury.
Certainly possible if the two were alone. That's not the case here.
Even worse - she had a friend with her that didn't see anything. TSJ had friends along, including a "handler/driver", that didn't see anything. A bar full of people that didn't see anything. Video cameras that didn't capture anything. It's not as if they were alone in a room together. All of these people present yet didn't see anything. I don't see how any reasonable person wouldn't have reasonable doubt this ever occured.
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Imo, this comes down to the DA bringing the case where we gave yet to see any solid evidence worthy of that. No DNA match, no witnesses in a crowded bar, trouble her IDing the suspect, incident lasted only seconds. How can the DA in Kansas bring such a unsubstantiated case? Is there more solid evidence? If there is let TSJ hear it. As far as the "zero tolerence" it seems the only information that changed other than charges being filed. I don't think anyone in the Athletic Department thinks he is guilty or he wouldn't have ever played. I understand why the U of I doesn't allow him to play without enough information but now they should have a lot of information from TSJ and his attornees. How in the hell can a DA legitimately bring such a charge unless there is solid information or evidence to pursue such a charge. So far I question that until the DA provides some real evidence and they haven't nor do I think they will.
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Can you tell me how to be careful if I choose to leave my house and congregate with others? I honestly don't know what "be careful" means.
What's the warning exactly? Don't talk to anyone (actually any girl, because let's be real, the law at issue does not appear to apply equally in the opposite direction) in any setting unless you keep your arms up in the air, you're on video the whole time, and have 1 or more witnesses documenting your every move?
I don't know what exactly happened here, nor I am saying that I'm certain TSJ didn't do what's his being accused of doing, but considering all the facts we know, a prosecutor (who is not motivated by considerations other than the law--be it political, racial, etc.) should never have brought up a case like this.
And yes, I do realize that the law is written so it would allow charging TSJ (I assume it was written this way as an overreaction and/or as an over-correction in response to terrible incidents in the past), but I think there's an assumption that prosecutors would employ unbiased discretion to guard against abuses of the law, and that doesn't appear to be the case here.
Maybe all it takes is 1 person to make a claim. But there is other evidence here that people are simply dismissing. According to the detective's affidavit: there is video evidence that suggests the accuser and TJ were in the same part of the bar at the time accuser said the incident occurred; there is video evidence that her movements throughout the bar line up with her alleged timeline of the incident; there is cell phone evidence that lines up the accuser's movements that night with the story she told the detective; there is evidence her friend said the accuser told her she was assaulted that night; and there is evidence she spend the remainder of the evening and some of next day searching for pictures of Illinois athletes until she found TJ and searching for definitions of sexual assault and rape. None of that evidence means that TJ did what the accuser claims, but it is absolutely evidence that the jury could find makes the accuser more credible, as is the fact that she reported the incident the very next day.
Again, none of that means TJ is guilty, but it does mean that the notion that something similar could happen to a Kansas player based on their trip here in October is dubious. If someone wanted to make up a claim whole cloth at this point, they would not have video evidence to support their story. They would not have cell phone evidence to support their story. They would not have a friend claiming they said they were sexually assaulted or raped that night (unless there is a second person in on this scheme who is willing to commit a crime to falsely accuse this random Kansas player). They would not have internet records showing that they searched for the Kansas basketball player and sexual assault or rape definitions that same night and next day.
Put another way, if this is a girl who TJ has never met and never had any interaction with and she is simply out to get TJ for unknown reasons, this whole situation probably required some meaningful planning on her part and is not something that could just be thrown together against any player who went to a bar in another city for a night.
Is this true? I know Kedrick is sometimes an over-the-top homer, so I didn’t know if these “facts” were legitimate or secondhand rumor? Can insiders please weigh in either validating this or letting us know it’s just a rumor. Thanks much!I learned some things listening to Kendrick and other callers today on sat sports talk. I did not know that zero DNA evidence was found on the victim. I didn’t not know that TJ volunteered himself prior to the charges for a DNA swab. I thought it was interesting that TJ had/has know idea of the identity of the person accusing him. Also, and lastly, I had assumed she was a KU student. She’s not. No conclusions, just a lot of details I hadn’t heard before.
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