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Ty Rodgers to take redshirt year
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Transfer portal closed in late April. Will Riley reclassified and committed in June. Business is business.
Actually, he didn't exactly. The portal closed in April. KJ and Riley came on board after that.
And yes, he knew that the possibility of bringing more talent in was there. BU knew that bringing in new talent might cause this very situation.
He played a significant role on a high level team last year.
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I love Ty, but this is flat-out wrong. Underwood's job is to win as much as possible. New season, new team, players have to earn their time. This is how high-level team sports work. Being recruited over is pretty much standard practice. Sink or swim, you're in the deep end.
When recruiting Ty Brad said that he was the best thing since sliced bread. How can a guy be on a college basketball team for 2 1/2 years and still not be able to shoot a little? Purdue exposed him last season, actually saying that they weren't going to guard him. Everyone else thought it was a great idea because it worked.
Brad recruited over him, we hope. He decided that he wants to play, so he is not going to waste this season. He will try to develop a shot, he will work on his body, he will practice hard and be a great teammate. Remember what Hawkins said about Sencire last season regarding practice? Quote-ish "We are trying to get warm, get ready for the next game, Buck is making us look stupid." He was still working his tail off. I would wager that Ty will be no different.
Should Ty hang around to ride the bench as a Junior, or save the year and play here or somewhere else next season?
Also to the guys who want to boot him out. Do you kick a guy off the team for red shirting? Seriously?
Brad recruited over him, we hope. He decided that he wants to play, so he is not going to waste this season. He will try to develop a shot, he will work on his body, he will practice hard and be a great teammate. Remember what Hawkins said about Sencire last season regarding practice? Quote-ish "We are trying to get warm, get ready for the next game, Buck is making us look stupid." He was still working his tail off. I would wager that Ty will be no different.
Should Ty hang around to ride the bench as a Junior, or save the year and play here or somewhere else next season?
Also to the guys who want to boot him out. Do you kick a guy off the team for red shirting? Seriously?
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Now that college basketball is no longer about scholarships and all about NIL, I don't think the concept of creaning applies anymore. In this situation, a player isn't getting his scholarship yanked, he's yanking an NIL bag away from donors. The power dynamic is totally different here.
Sure we can talk. There will be games this season where we will say we could have used his rebounding and defense. But on the whole it sure looks like Ty has been over recruited by players that provide shooting. And it sounds like Ty didn’t want to be a role player.
I seem to recall a LOT of games last season where Ty was on the bench late.
The problem for Ty is that Brad can't really play him and Rez at the same time, or else the offense starts to gum up like a Mike Woodson coached team. And with this year's roster, it's more advantageous to have Rez's big man skillset eating up some of those available non-scorer minutes than Ty's game. He'll spend the year working on his skillset, enter the portal, get paid, and be a starter at some other P4 school.
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Well, you can reward your "glue" guys and play rosters full of good players that we loved like Sincere, Ty, Egwu, etc, etc... like we had for 10-15 years......
*coughJohnGrocecough* and enjoy an occasional B1G tourney run.
Or, you can recruit over them with Ayo, Kofi, TSJ, CoHawk, KJ, Ivisic, and Will Riley....and win B1G Championships and play in the 2nd weekend in March.
Which "ick" do you prefer?
*coughJohnGrocecough* and enjoy an occasional B1G tourney run.
Or, you can recruit over them with Ayo, Kofi, TSJ, CoHawk, KJ, Ivisic, and Will Riley....and win B1G Championships and play in the 2nd weekend in March.
Which "ick" do you prefer?
I read your comments as saying that Rodgers should get playing time over guys who clearly are more talented than him (KJ, Riley, White), mainly because he’s put time in here for two years. I don’t think that’s how competitive basketball works at this level.
Some really wild takes in here. This was Ty's decision, and his alone. I don't doubt for 1 second that BU was nothing but completely honest with him on where he stood on the team and in the rotation. Ty is making the best move FOR HIM. Is this best for the team right now? NO! But now that the staff knows they can solidify a rotation that helps mitigate Ty's loss. In the end, the team MAY be better, maybe not. It's done, it's over. Let's move on. I-L-L
This is a bad look for recruits. You fail to see that side of it. There will be backlash in terms of recruits questioning BU's committment that he makes to prospects to then just go back and over-recruit. Some schools are not playing that game and something tells me that it will backfire unless BU maintains a high level program
You make this sound like this is all about money. What you fail to remember is that these players have pride and they go to these programs to play competitive D-1 basketball b/c they see basketball as an avenue towards a career path(whether the NBA or internationally). I guarantee that Ty wants to make the most out of his collegiate career and being Creaned into a 10 or 15 minute role is a slap in the face.
I see a lot of people here basically just accepting this as standard practice these days. It doesn't make it right or proper. We're talking about Ty Rodgers...the program guy and one of the couple of keepers of the program. How can he be one of our top leaders and be a redshirt? Something is terribly wrong with that statement
I see a lot of people here basically just accepting this as standard practice these days. It doesn't make it right or proper. We're talking about Ty Rodgers...the program guy and one of the couple of keepers of the program. How can he be one of our top leaders and be a redshirt? Something is terribly wrong with that statement
Seems to me like this was Ty's decision. Brad isn't making him redshirt. This is purely Ty's call. Not sure of your issue. Are you saying that Brad shouldn't bring in elite players because it might hurt other guy's feelings? That's just a loser's(not you) mentality. It's competition at its highest form.
If Ty doesn't think that he can play at a level that these other guys can....again, that's really on him.
The second part to all of this is the these coaches are screwed either way. If Brad sits tight and Ty unexpectedly hops into the portal, then what? The coaches at this level can NEVER just assume that his roster is returning.
Brad had to replace TJ, Domask, Hawkins, Dain, Guerrier, Goode, Harris, Hansberry, Harmon, etc.....five of those to the portal.
This is where the college game is. Either hop aboard or eventually get fired.
Look at the opponent and stop overhyping the lopsided win against EIU. I want to see this statement again in March if we're dealing with an up and down team and see if you feel this same way.
You mean operate like KU, Arizona, UNC, Kentucky, and the other cheats? There's a way to operate with honor and integrity...go look at UCONNSeems some of our fans don’t want us to operate like a top-tier program…
He was a role player last year. That statement is false. It sounds like you don't actually know what's going on. Ty has always been willing to play a role. Don't character assassinate the young man. He was one of the more unselfish players on last year's team playing out of position and doing the dirty work. On a team that is young and not "tough," we sure could use someone of Ty's caliber to rebound, do the little things, and be the unselfish player that we know who he is. But, because newcomers like Tre White and Ben Hummer are automatically put above Ty in the pecking order without earning their stripes and their way, who can blame Ty for being frustrated? Will Riley and Kasparas may end up being special players, but Ty earned his way into a better draw than getting passed by the likes of Hummer and Tre White
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So many fans fall in love with try hard guys. Sencire was all effort, but I could kick the ball in the hoop at a higher rate than he could shoot it. Ty Rodgers was a worse shooter than Sencire. In 2 years as a wing player, he took ONE 3, and he missed it. I would guess he took less than 10 shots from further than 6 feet.
He wasn't an average shooter, he wasn't a bad shooter, he was a non shooter. He wouldn't even take the shot. He was a warrior on the boards and scored most of his points that way. I had hoped when he came in he would provide a lot more in terms of assists and be able to play some point forward, but that didn't happen. And quite frankly, his defense wasn't stellar enough to make up for the 4 on 5 we were playing on offense.
I love a try hard guy too, but I like really good players better. As soon as Tre White transferred in, the writing was on the wall. White is basically Rodgers with a better shot. Then when we brought in Riley too, I actually expected Rodgers to transfer. Not sure why he didn't if he was going to end up redshirting.
He wasn't an average shooter, he wasn't a bad shooter, he was a non shooter. He wouldn't even take the shot. He was a warrior on the boards and scored most of his points that way. I had hoped when he came in he would provide a lot more in terms of assists and be able to play some point forward, but that didn't happen. And quite frankly, his defense wasn't stellar enough to make up for the 4 on 5 we were playing on offense.
I love a try hard guy too, but I like really good players better. As soon as Tre White transferred in, the writing was on the wall. White is basically Rodgers with a better shot. Then when we brought in Riley too, I actually expected Rodgers to transfer. Not sure why he didn't if he was going to end up redshirting.
Riley committed in June... portal window closed way earlier.
Hawkins gave 4 yrs to the program. He is the epitome of loyalty in this era of non-loyalty. No Illini fan should ever question Hawkins' loyalty and if you do, you're not a real fan. Hawkins left b/c BU couldn't elevate his stock any further, so he went elsewhere where he'll be a more focal point offensively just as much as getting more money.
Ty committed back in April. He got overecruited after that. Tre White, Ben Humrichous, Will Riley all brought in. I can't blame the Will Riley deal b/c he may be special but the other two guys? You mean to tell me that one of the keepers of the program and program guys got cast aside for two guys that haven't been here for a minute? We live in a bizzaro world if this is considered to be proper etiquette towards a glue guy.
So, yes, Brad did this to him. Ty Rodgers got sold out for the almighty dollar while everything that BU sold to Rodgers is full of garbage now. You don't alienate the glue guy, the leader, and one of the few returning keepers of the program. When you do, this is the result. It's okay to call it for what it is.
Ty committed back in April. He got overecruited after that. Tre White, Ben Humrichous, Will Riley all brought in. I can't blame the Will Riley deal b/c he may be special but the other two guys? You mean to tell me that one of the keepers of the program and program guys got cast aside for two guys that haven't been here for a minute? We live in a bizzaro world if this is considered to be proper etiquette towards a glue guy.
So, yes, Brad did this to him. Ty Rodgers got sold out for the almighty dollar while everything that BU sold to Rodgers is full of garbage now. You don't alienate the glue guy, the leader, and one of the few returning keepers of the program. When you do, this is the result. It's okay to call it for what it is.
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Hey. Language like that is uncalled for. That should be at least a 2 week ban.
Some of y’all need to get a grip. How many times over the past 4 years did it feel like the sky was falling? (OA and Chin leaving, Sencire leaving, Skyy Clark leaving mid season, and so on)
How many times did we make the tournament?
How many times did we win a trophy?
Trust Brad. He wins.
How many times did we make the tournament?
How many times did we win a trophy?
Trust Brad. He wins.
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