Ty Rodgers to take redshirt year
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After my initial shock and outrage, I'm starting to come back full circle on this a bit.
If this was ten years ago, Ty would be stuck on the bench, not getting paid and would have to sit a year to go somewhere else and be stuck there if it wasn't a good fit.
Now he gets paid NIL money and doesn't burn a year of eligibility so he can continue his career elsewhere. I was so excited about Ty when he committed, and my son went to some of his camps. Great person, awesome with the kids.
However, it really seems like this was 100% his choice and strictly a business decision. Obviously he can contribute at Illinois, but not at the level he'd like. It's up to Brad to find the best players, and it's up to the players to make Brad not play over them. I'm sure we will miss him at some point this season like we did with Sencire last year.
I wish Ty the best of luck for the rest of his career.
If this was ten years ago, Ty would be stuck on the bench, not getting paid and would have to sit a year to go somewhere else and be stuck there if it wasn't a good fit.
Now he gets paid NIL money and doesn't burn a year of eligibility so he can continue his career elsewhere. I was so excited about Ty when he committed, and my son went to some of his camps. Great person, awesome with the kids.
However, it really seems like this was 100% his choice and strictly a business decision. Obviously he can contribute at Illinois, but not at the level he'd like. It's up to Brad to find the best players, and it's up to the players to make Brad not play over them. I'm sure we will miss him at some point this season like we did with Sencire last year.
I wish Ty the best of luck for the rest of his career.
Do you know what is a good look for recruits? Getting KJ and Riley drafted in the first round next year and winning a lot of games in the process.
College basketball is now more than ever a business for players and these 4 or 5 years can go a long way to securing the future they want. Because we fans choose to get emotionally wrapped up with a team and its players doesn’t change that. So let’s stop with all the disloyalty talk about Ty to the team and BU to Ty. They both have jobs to do and both are doing what they feel is best his future (Ty) and the school/program (BU).
I am really amazed by the number of posts blasting Ty for springing this on the team the day the season starts. It’s as if people think Ty just walked into BU’s office yesterday morning out of the blue and said, “Coach, I’ve decided to redshirt.” I’m sure there had been at least conversations about role/playing time for at least several weeks. For all we know Ty made and communicated his decision to BU weeks ago. There was no reason to publicly announce the decision ahead of time. All that would have done is cause a distraction for the players to deal with while preparing for upcoming season. Makes perfect sense to wait until day of game. Eliminate all the questions to players about it prior to game, and greatly reduce the number after the game because there is actual basketball to talk about.
I am really amazed by the number of posts blasting Ty for springing this on the team the day the season starts. It’s as if people think Ty just walked into BU’s office yesterday morning out of the blue and said, “Coach, I’ve decided to redshirt.” I’m sure there had been at least conversations about role/playing time for at least several weeks. For all we know Ty made and communicated his decision to BU weeks ago. There was no reason to publicly announce the decision ahead of time. All that would have done is cause a distraction for the players to deal with while preparing for upcoming season. Makes perfect sense to wait until day of game. Eliminate all the questions to players about it prior to game, and greatly reduce the number after the game because there is actual basketball to talk about.
Joel Goodson
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if there is a bight side to this, it's that it opens up more minutes for Booth. He looked pretty good last night. Definitely has League potential, IMO.
Big Jack
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Ty was in no way creaned into 10-15 minutes per game. He was asked to improve certain skills and get better, which did not happen. Because we brought in more talented players he realized his role on this team done and he choose to sit it out. Why? because he will get paid whether he plays or sits. This is the new West, standard whether you like it or not. This is the exact reason why Bennett retired..
Until the NCAA and schools work all of this out, this will be the new standard. Win at all costs! Loyalty and Everyday guys is a thing of the past except it and move on.
Big Jack
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What top schools/coaches are giving 20- 25 minutes to a player who the coach doesn’t feel has earned them just because he was on the team the year before? Brad isn’t running Ty off. There was a role on the team for him. It just wasn’t the role Ty wanted. I don’t blame Ty nor Brad.
You know what is really a bad look to recruits. A coach who won’t play the best players and forces freshmen to sit whether they’re better than another player or not. The majority of recruits just want a chance to compete on a level playing field for minutes. And that percentage goes way up when you’re talking about the skill level of the players Illinois now recruits. Tilting the playing field in the direction of a player who was there first for that reason alone is bad for wins, bad for team morale and bad for recruiting.
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If I remember right we could have used Harris defense a few times! Hope this isn't happening again. Like Ty, he made great strides from year one to year 2. Wish best for him.
Who is “Buck”?
Meh.
I did not character assassinate him.
Sounds like Ty was told what his role would be and didn’t want that. He’s good enough to sit a year and develop and then go get a fit he wants. Nothing wrong with that. I advocated for playing him more at the end of games last year.
I expected to come away from last nights game saying that I felt Ty would be better than White and Booth. And that he shouldn’t lose minutes to them. But it’s clear we are going to need someone who can shoot it with the offense we will run.
I’m probably done responding to you. I’m sorry you are this upset about it
Man, I don't mean this disrespectfully, but you're coming in with some of the softest takes I've ever seen on this board. You give a guy minutes because of loyalty? All of these guys getting D1 offers know that this is a competition and you have to earn the opportunity. Nothing is given to you and Brad has shown that with many players that have made demands. The reality is that as much I love Ty and the positive things he brings to the team, he's a massive offensive liability and other guys are just better than him right now. Based on what BU said, he understands that to get to where he wants to go, he has to be able to shoot the ball; right now, he can't do that at this level. And Underwood's job is to win games...not make people happy. I think he has seen the last couple of years, that yes, chemistry matters, but at the end of the day, talent wins championships. UConn showed that in a major way. Are there outliers? Sure. But at the end of the day, the teams with the most talented players who buy into a system will usually come out on top.
Anybody else wondering why Mean Streets players can't shoot FTs?
Bigtex
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Not sure odd man out - but Ty was looking at significantly reduction in Playing time.
Battle89
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Creaning as a concept is dead in an era where both sides are being paid to produce the best basketball, and transferring is universally easy.
Creaning existed where the coach / school had the vast majority of power, while the student athlete had restricted mobility and penalties for leaving.
Today the players have equal (or more, in this contract-less and CBA-less world) power to move and do so with regularity. Ty lost his job to a better 'employee', simple as that. He gets an NIL golden parachute and most likely goes elsewhere next year.
It stings, and I don't love the parachute either (this concept of getting paid to not work), but here we are. He was not Creaned.
sacraig
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I'd take that deal. Sounds like living the dream!
Why should Coach even allow Ty to practice with the team to get him better or prepare his play for next season when he transfers to another team that may be a competitor or rival?
I agree - that is clear early on and it’s difficult for any player to go from starter on an elite 8 team to a bench player on what is likely a less good team.
My worry is that Tre White is the one getting his role/minutes right now and I have seen absolutely nothing from Tre White that would suggest we are a better team with him than Ty. Maybe he’s slightly better offensively but no where near defensively and does not bring the rebounding and passing that Ty brings and those are the areas this team sorely lacks right now
It’s a very surprising decision that I hope does not come back to bite us. If TW struggles, we’re going to wish we had Ty
I believe that we have seen the last of Ty in an Ill uniform. He'll be gone at semester. What I don't understand is why the red-shirt? What does that gain? Unless the coach told him he wasn't going to get any rotation time and would only play walk-on minutes. I believe he'll be at Loyola, DePaul, or a Michigan (non-Big Ten) school in January.
We WILL miss his toughness, but who do you take out so you can play him? I love Ty, but he doesn't fit. Even Johnson can shoot, plus he has 3+ inches and 35 pounds on him , as a FRESHMAN.
Good luck, man....
We WILL miss his toughness, but who do you take out so you can play him? I love Ty, but he doesn't fit. Even Johnson can shoot, plus he has 3+ inches and 35 pounds on him , as a FRESHMAN.
Good luck, man....
Those who witness practice daily talk about how great White is. He has averaged over 10 points a game at USC and at Louisville the past two seasons and is taller and more athletic than Ty. There are no comparisons.
pruman91
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i was attacked for dare suggesting that Ty would not be starting this year in a thread following the UCONN loss. I hate to see Ty go, because like I said I love his defense and toughness. Dude can’t shoot though.
I’d say I, along with a few others, were correct on this one .Receipts available if needed.
I’d say I, along with a few others, were correct on this one .Receipts available if needed.
You're already assuming the Illini will be a tournament team when that's not a given. You don't have to be a homer. You can be a realist too and take off the orange colored sunglasses once in a while
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