Ty Rodgers to take redshirt year

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#426      
Scoregasm
TheGMan said:
I question your fandom if you think that is the most "Illinois thing."

More likely we get to the national championship, have a big lead, but have a bunch of foul trouble and injuries and can't put a full team on the court because Ty redshirted and we have to forfeit.
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I'll finish this one. Ty hits a 3 to win the championship...NCAA later rules Ty was ineligible and the championship is removed and awarded to Kansas and Bill Self...just because it's so Illinois.
 
#427      
Piotyr
It's disappointing, but I don't think there's anything nefarious going on here.

I suspect coach told Ty at the end of last year he needed to work on his offensive game and that he was going to bring in talent to compete for spots. I bet he even told Ty how awesome of a dude he was and that he'd have every chance to earn a rotation/starting spot.

Coach brings in Booth, Humrichous, White and Riley to effectively play the same minutes Ty was competing for. Offensive game just isn't there in the offseason. Preseason rolls around and Ty isn't a starter and gets back-end of the rotation minutes against Ole Miss and doesn't do much of anything. Meets with coach before the season and discusses his role. Told that he'd be a 7-10 minutes per game guy off the bench, Ty instead chooses to redshirt and spend the season working on his offensive game and practicing with the team while preserving a year of eligibility at a program that can better use his talents.
 
#428      
AirNeazy
Uihoop2023! said:
Lol
Yeah recruiting over someone has certainly hurt the blue bloods like Duke, NC, Alabama and Kentucky. You want to be elite you have to do what elite programs do. The teams listed earlier don't hesitate to try to improve and illinois shouldn't either...poor Ty...you want playing time? Beat those other guys out!
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Sorry but Alabama is not a blue blood in basketball.....but valid point regardless!
 
#429      
GrayGhost77
aaeismacgychel said:
Most Illinois thing would be Tim Anderson, pissed after feeling like he was passed over himself, felt this Ty being relegated to the bench and redshirting situation was the last straw and brings 1000pages of personal "notes" copied in triplicate to the University Chancellor, B10 commissioner, and NCAA president detailing multiple violations including an off book account for player and recruiting tampering related expenditures, payment to Texas Tech to nor allow TSJ to get his additional summer credits he needed for Michigan, documentation of the coaching staff bribing medical to clear a concussed Andre Curbelo, audio that Kasparas and Tomi were bought European supercars to attend here, and damning evidence that both Juwan Howard and Connor Stallions were actually university of Illinois paid plants in a convoluted murder for hire plot to destroy the crown jewel of the B10 and NCAA Michigan athletic program.

Ty files for a special waiver for immediately eligible transfer which the NCAA surprisingly immediately allows. He enrolls at MSU who just so happens to be our next opponent and Izzo starts him against us. Ty plays like a man possessed, physically abusing KJ and Will turning them over at will, no fouls called. We somehow claw our way back but with 5 seconds to go up 3, Ty jumps over Tre White for the offensive rebound, takes it straight into Ivisic for the and 1, buries the free throw, then steals the inbound pass, takes the buzzer beater 3 and buries it. We proceed to lose to MSU 3 additional times that year, once more in the regular season, once in the BTT where Ty gets a quadruple double, and the finally in the NCAAT in the 2nd Round where Ty goes for 40pts. MSU goes on to win the national championship with Ty named MVP

In the offseason, due to review of the violations, the NCAA rules that there is an extreme lack of institutional control and as such they invoke a new NCAA Illinois rule death penalty in which all school athletic programs are stripped from the university never to return. Due to the lack of funding and lack of state and government support, U of I closes its doors and Northwestern becomes the flagship state university, and all degrees earned at Illinois become worthless. That about cover it?
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#430      
RichardKeenesCousin
aaeismacgychel said:
Most Illinois thing would be Tim Anderson, pissed after feeling like he was passed over himself, felt this Ty being relegated to the bench and redshirting situation was the last straw and brings 1000pages of personal "notes" copied in triplicate to the University Chancellor, B10 commissioner, and NCAA president detailing multiple violations including an off book account for player and recruiting tampering related expenditures, payment to Texas Tech to nor allow TSJ to get his additional summer credits he needed for Michigan, documentation of the coaching staff bribing medical to clear a concussed Andre Curbelo, audio that Kasparas and Tomi were bought European supercars to attend here, and damning evidence that both Juwan Howard and Connor Stallions were actually university of Illinois paid plants in a convoluted murder for hire plot to destroy the crown jewel of the B10 and NCAA Michigan athletic program.

Ty files for a special waiver for immediately eligible transfer which the NCAA surprisingly immediately allows. He enrolls at MSU who just so happens to be our next opponent and Izzo starts him against us. Ty plays like a man possessed, physically abusing KJ and Will turning them over at will, no fouls called. We somehow claw our way back but with 5 seconds to go up 3, Ty jumps over Tre White for the offensive rebound, takes it straight into Ivisic for the and 1, buries the free throw, then steals the inbound pass, takes the buzzer beater 3 and buries it. We proceed to lose to MSU 3 additional times that year, once more in the regular season, once in the BTT where Ty gets a quadruple double, and the finally in the NCAAT in the 2nd Round where Ty goes for 40pts. MSU goes on to win the national championship with Ty named MVP

In the offseason, due to review of the violations, the NCAA rules that there is an extreme lack of institutional control and as such they invoke a new NCAA Illinois rule death penalty in which all school athletic programs are stripped from the university never to return. Due to the lack of funding and lack of state and government support, U of I closes its doors and Northwestern becomes the flagship state university, and all degrees earned at Illinois become worthless. That about cover it?
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#431      
Combo
Piotyr said:
It's disappointing, but I don't think there's anything nefarious going on here.

I suspect coach told Ty at the end of last year he needed to work on his offensive game and that he was going to bring in talent to compete for spots. I bet he even told Ty how awesome of a dude he was and that he'd have every chance to earn a rotation/starting spot.

Coach brings in Booth, Humrichous, White and Riley to effectively play the same minutes Ty was competing for. Offensive game just isn't there in the offseason. Preseason rolls around and Ty isn't a starter and gets back-end of the rotation minutes against Ole Miss and doesn't do much of anything. Meets with coach before the season and discusses his role. Told that he'd be a 7-10 minutes per game guy off the bench, Ty instead chooses to redshirt and spend the season working on his offensive game and practicing with the team while preserving a year of eligibility at a program that can better use his talents.
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Seems like a perfect description of what happened. Nothing nefarious on either Brad or Ty's part. This situation will likely happen regularly when you are able to bring in better talent (which every coach tries to do). I can understand big donors being peeved, but this is virtually unavoidable with the rules as they are now.
 
#432      
the juiceman cometh
aaeismacgychel said:
Most Illinois thing would be Tim Anderson, pissed after feeling like he was passed over himself, felt this Ty being relegated to the bench and redshirting situation was the last straw and brings 1000pages of personal "notes" copied in triplicate to the University Chancellor, B10 commissioner, and NCAA president detailing multiple violations including an off book account for player and recruiting tampering related expenditures, payment to Texas Tech to nor allow TSJ to get his additional summer credits he needed for Michigan, documentation of the coaching staff bribing medical to clear a concussed Andre Curbelo, audio that Kasparas and Tomi were bought European supercars to attend here, and damning evidence that both Juwan Howard and Connor Stallions were actually university of Illinois paid plants in a convoluted murder for hire plot to destroy the crown jewel of the B10 and NCAA Michigan athletic program.

Ty files for a special waiver for immediately eligible transfer which the NCAA surprisingly immediately allows. He enrolls at MSU who just so happens to be our next opponent and Izzo starts him against us. Ty plays like a man possessed, physically abusing KJ and Will turning them over at will, no fouls called. We somehow claw our way back but with 5 seconds to go up 3, Ty jumps over Tre White for the offensive rebound, takes it straight into Ivisic for the and 1, buries the free throw, then steals the inbound pass, takes the buzzer beater 3 and buries it. We proceed to lose to MSU 3 additional times that year, once more in the regular season, once in the BTT where Ty gets a quadruple double, and the finally in the NCAAT in the 2nd Round where Ty goes for 40pts. MSU goes on to win the national championship with Ty named MVP

In the offseason, due to review of the violations, the NCAA rules that there is an extreme lack of institutional control and as such they invoke a new NCAA Illinois rule death penalty in which all school athletic programs are stripped from the university never to return. Due to the lack of funding and lack of state and government support, U of I closes its doors and Northwestern becomes the flagship state university, and all degrees earned at Illinois become worthless. That about cover it?
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#434      
texillwek
aaeismacgychel said:
Most Illinois thing would be Tim Anderson, pissed after feeling like he was passed over himself, felt this Ty being relegated to the bench and redshirting situation was the last straw and brings 1000pages of personal "notes" copied in triplicate to the University Chancellor, B10 commissioner, and NCAA president detailing multiple violations including an off book account for player and recruiting tampering related expenditures, payment to Texas Tech to nor allow TSJ to get his additional summer credits he needed for Michigan, documentation of the coaching staff bribing medical to clear a concussed Andre Curbelo, audio that Kasparas and Tomi were bought European supercars to attend here, and damning evidence that both Juwan Howard and Connor Stallions were actually university of Illinois paid plants in a convoluted murder for hire plot to destroy the crown jewel of the B10 and NCAA Michigan athletic program.

Ty files for a special waiver for immediately eligible transfer which the NCAA surprisingly immediately allows. He enrolls at MSU who just so happens to be our next opponent and Izzo starts him against us. Ty plays like a man possessed, physically abusing KJ and Will turning them over at will, no fouls called. We somehow claw our way back but with 5 seconds to go up 3, Ty jumps over Tre White for the offensive rebound, takes it straight into Ivisic for the and 1, buries the free throw, then steals the inbound pass, takes the buzzer beater 3 and buries it. We proceed to lose to MSU 3 additional times that year, once more in the regular season, once in the BTT where Ty gets a quadruple double, and the finally in the NCAAT in the 2nd Round where Ty goes for 40pts. MSU goes on to win the national championship with Ty named MVP

In the offseason, due to review of the violations, the NCAA rules that there is an extreme lack of institutional control and as such they invoke a new NCAA Illinois rule death penalty in which all school athletic programs are stripped from the university never to return. Due to the lack of funding and lack of state and government support, U of I closes its doors and Northwestern becomes the flagship state university, and all degrees earned at Illinois become worthless. That about cover it?
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#435      
TheGMan
aaeismacgychel said:
Most Illinois thing would be Tim Anderson, pissed after feeling like he was passed over himself, felt this Ty being relegated to the bench and redshirting situation was the last straw and brings 1000pages of personal "notes" copied in triplicate to the University Chancellor, B10 commissioner, and NCAA president detailing multiple violations including an off book account for player and recruiting tampering related expenditures, payment to Texas Tech to nor allow TSJ to get his additional summer credits he needed for Michigan, documentation of the coaching staff bribing medical to clear a concussed Andre Curbelo, audio that Kasparas and Tomi were bought European supercars to attend here, and damning evidence that both Juwan Howard and Connor Stallions were actually university of Illinois paid plants in a convoluted murder for hire plot to destroy the crown jewel of the B10 and NCAA Michigan athletic program.

Ty files for a special waiver for immediately eligible transfer which the NCAA surprisingly immediately allows. He enrolls at MSU who just so happens to be our next opponent and Izzo starts him against us. Ty plays like a man possessed, physically abusing KJ and Will turning them over at will, no fouls called. We somehow claw our way back but with 5 seconds to go up 3, Ty jumps over Tre White for the offensive rebound, takes it straight into Ivisic for the and 1, buries the free throw, then steals the inbound pass, takes the buzzer beater 3 and buries it. We proceed to lose to MSU 3 additional times that year, once more in the regular season, once in the BTT where Ty gets a quadruple double, and the finally in the NCAAT in the 2nd Round where Ty goes for 40pts. MSU goes on to win the national championship with Ty named MVP

In the offseason, due to review of the violations, the NCAA rules that there is an extreme lack of institutional control and as such they invoke a new NCAA Illinois rule death penalty in which all school athletic programs are stripped from the university never to return. Due to the lack of funding and lack of state and government support, U of I closes its doors and Northwestern becomes the flagship state university, and all degrees earned at Illinois become worthless. That about cover it?
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#436      
aaeismacgychel
Honestly though, the most Illinois thing to happen with Ty is he transfers and puts up underwhelming numbers. That's just what the vast majority of players who have transferred out under Brad has done, and Ty is a specialty player where fit is going to be really important and I'm just not sure how many schools that are out there that can truly utilize his skillset. Put him on a team that can spread you out and have multiple players who can slash to the rim with him being the support offball rebounder and I think he could thrive. And I do think in the right situation he could be a near double double player. That said, the odds he gets in that situation aren't high.

Of course it's far more eh-ehm "fun" to talk of the downfall of Illinois sports, than what is more probable, but as a lifelong Illini fans, I think we all know that when someone says, "what's the worst that can happen", it's reflex just to get in the fetal position.
 
#437      
Battle89
aaeismacgychel said:
Honestly though, the most Illinois thing to happen with Ty is he transfers and puts up underwhelming numbers. That's just what the vast majority of players who have transferred out under Brad has done, and Ty is a specialty player where fit is going to be really important and I'm just not sure how many schools that are out there that can truly utilize his skillset. Put him on a team that can spread you out and have multiple players who can slash to the rim with him being the support offball rebounder and I think he could thrive. And I do think in the right situation he could be a near double double player. That said, the odds he gets in that situation aren't high.

Of course it's far more eh-ehm "fun" to talk of the downfall of Illinois sports, than what is more probable, but as a lifelong Illini fans, I think we all know that when someone says, "what's the worst that can happen", it's reflex just to get in the fetal position.
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With accompanying protection of course. It's been dinged up over the years but still works.

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#439      
doowink
PepeSilvia said:
Illinois gets to the national championship game.

Has a bunch of foul trouble and injuries. Ty burns his red shirt to hit a buzzer beater 3 to win the championship.
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No..no...no....Ty transfers immediately to another school, becomes eligible 2nd semester at that school.....Illinois and Ty's new team meet in the Final 4 semi-final game...Ty is fouled with 1.2 sec left in the game...calmly makes 2 Ft's to defeat the Illini by 1.

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...that would truly be classic Most Illini thing or luck (or lack of)
 
#440      
illini510
Thaillini22 said:
I don't mean to pick on you, others have said the same sorta thing... but it doesn't make sense to me. This past offseason was the wettest example of "recruiting is fluid" in CBB history.

I doubt BU even ever thought, "My next recruit needs to be 'over' Ty Rodgers." He was probably thinking, "I'd better get a damn move on or I'm not gonna have a full roster!" (And of course he's gonna try to get the best dudes he can.)

We happen to have the good fortune of having an extremely competent coach, so it turned out he got a lot of good dudes!

Also, isn't it a bit early to say White won't be more valuable than Ty when it comes to winning ball games?
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It's not too early b/c the proof is in the pudding. We've had a 2 yr sample size. one player impacts winning and one player impacts losing or at the very least, doesn't impact winning. So, stop saying that Ty isn't as valuable. That's straight nonsense
 
#441      
illini510
HailtotheChief said:
I appreciate Ty but let's dont act as if he has lived up to expectations. Ty is not a lock down defender or an uber skilled player like a Rodman type in all areas besides shooting. I trust our coaches to evaluate the talent. I am not so easily convinced Ty is better than Tre White at any aspect until I see more on the court at Illinois. I know LaTulip says they are very similar in many areas except shooting the ball where Tre is better. I tend to agree with Latulip. Ty struggled on defense at times too. Ty was a very good offensive rebounder but I have not seen enough yet to say Tre or others can't be to and also provide a threat to score and spread the floor which Ty unfortunately just can't do.
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I haven't seen anything from Tre White yet that Ty Rodgers couldn't do. Maybe he will flash in games but he's likely the 6th or 7th option in terms of scoring. Will Riley might be coming for his spot if he learns how to defend. At this point, you got KJ, Riley, Ivisic, Boswell, DGL, maybe Humrichous who are all going to be getting the ball. So, is it really worth alienating Ty Rodgers for a guy who won't even be a top 5 option on his own team?
 
#443      
AZILL
510 I don't think you are convincing anyone. I get you like TR, I do too, we all like TR. But he is the one in practice going up against his teammates every single day, and he made this decision based on what he knows, and what the staff is telling him they see. I get the sense from your multitude of posts on Ty Rogers decision that you think this was not his decision to make. You are wrong, it was. Had he told the staff he still wanted to play, use the year of eligibility, they would let him. They likely may have recommended otherwise, because I think this staff is brutally honest with all of the players, but still would have said sitting out was his best long term option.
 
#445      
rjeffreys
PasadenaIllini said:
If this is true, Anderson way overplayed his hand. He was making more than any Bill Self Assistant is making at KU. And he wanted a raise...completely unreasonable.
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Also highlights another reason for Ty's redshirt and probable transfer with "his guy" leaving.
 
#446      
bleedorange and blue
GetAWin said:
Any idea what he's getting paid this year? Thought I saw $300k. Still don't understand how 2 parties make a deal/ commitment, and then 1 party decides..." Naw, I'm not going to play this year. But still pay me my $$". This seems very unethical. Sky, Sincere, Ty...who will it be next year?
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Agree, if you don't want to be here and be an active part of the team,,,,leave. But to suck up a roster space,train,get paid just doesn't seem right. Hopefully the NIL stuff gets a few rules, contracts something. Been illini since the 60s, miss the loyalty of the old days
 
#448      
HensonHall71
ChiTown said:
The man spitting the truth to set the rumors straight,nothing we didn’t know before….
https://twitter.com/x/status/1854633446200545660
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This is a case of foolish pride by TA - I can understand why there would be jealousy of someone coming in and making more than you.

But you need perspective in those situations and know if you get to that level of recruiting success your payday is coming - Josh isn’t going to let an assistant leave that they really want to keep because of money
 
#449      
bleedorange and blue
aaeismacgychel said:
Most Illinois thing would be Tim Anderson, pissed after feeling like he was passed over himself, felt this Ty being relegated to the bench and redshirting situation was the last straw and brings 1000pages of personal "notes" copied in triplicate to the University Chancellor, B10 commissioner, and NCAA president detailing multiple violations including an off book account for player and recruiting tampering related expenditures, payment to Texas Tech to nor allow TSJ to get his additional summer credits he needed for Michigan, documentation of the coaching staff bribing medical to clear a concussed Andre Curbelo, audio that Kasparas and Tomi were bought European supercars to attend here, and damning evidence that both Juwan Howard and Connor Stallions were actually university of Illinois paid plants in a convoluted murder for hire plot to destroy the crown jewel of the B10 and NCAA Michigan athletic program.

Ty files for a special waiver for immediately eligible transfer which the NCAA surprisingly immediately allows. He enrolls at MSU who just so happens to be our next opponent and Izzo starts him against us. Ty plays like a man possessed, physically abusing KJ and Will turning them over at will, no fouls called. We somehow claw our way back but with 5 seconds to go up 3, Ty jumps over Tre White for the offensive rebound, takes it straight into Ivisic for the and 1, buries the free throw, then steals the inbound pass, takes the buzzer beater 3 and buries it. We proceed to lose to MSU 3 additional times that year, once more in the regular season, once in the BTT where Ty gets a quadruple double, and the finally in the NCAAT in the 2nd Round where Ty goes for 40pts. MSU goes on to win the national championship with Ty named MVP

In the offseason, due to review of the violations, the NCAA rules that there is an extreme lack of institutional control and as such they invoke a new NCAA Illinois rule death penalty in which all school athletic programs are stripped from the university never to return. Due to the lack of funding and lack of state and government support, U of I closes its doors and Northwestern becomes the flagship state university, and all degrees earned at Illinois become worthless. That about cover it?
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Damn, you have put a lot of thought into that 😳
 
#450      
Illini in Italy
aaeismacgychel said:
Most Illinois thing would be Tim Anderson, pissed after feeling like he was passed over himself, felt this Ty being relegated to the bench and redshirting situation was the last straw and brings 1000pages of personal "notes" copied in triplicate to the University Chancellor, B10 commissioner, and NCAA president detailing multiple violations including an off book account for player and recruiting tampering related expenditures, payment to Texas Tech to nor allow TSJ to get his additional summer credits he needed for Michigan, documentation of the coaching staff bribing medical to clear a concussed Andre Curbelo, audio that Kasparas and Tomi were bought European supercars to attend here, and damning evidence that both Juwan Howard and Connor Stallions were actually university of Illinois paid plants in a convoluted murder for hire plot to destroy the crown jewel of the B10 and NCAA Michigan athletic program.

Ty files for a special waiver for immediately eligible transfer which the NCAA surprisingly immediately allows. He enrolls at MSU who just so happens to be our next opponent and Izzo starts him against us. Ty plays like a man possessed, physically abusing KJ and Will turning them over at will, no fouls called. We somehow claw our way back but with 5 seconds to go up 3, Ty jumps over Tre White for the offensive rebound, takes it straight into Ivisic for the and 1, buries the free throw, then steals the inbound pass, takes the buzzer beater 3 and buries it. We proceed to lose to MSU 3 additional times that year, once more in the regular season, once in the BTT where Ty gets a quadruple double, and the finally in the NCAAT in the 2nd Round where Ty goes for 40pts. MSU goes on to win the national championship with Ty named MVP

In the offseason, due to review of the violations, the NCAA rules that there is an extreme lack of institutional control and as such they invoke a new NCAA Illinois rule death penalty in which all school athletic programs are stripped from the university never to return. Due to the lack of funding and lack of state and government support, U of I closes its doors and Northwestern becomes the flagship state university, and all degrees earned at Illinois become worthless. That about cover it?
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