Week of 2/19 Games Thread

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Chad Fleck

Eureka, IL
It will get more coverage because it was Duke, but the court-storming at Wake left Kyle Filipowski with an ankle injury requiring assistance for him to leave the court. For the time being, I'll give him the benefit of the doubt and say that the injury matched his reaction. But in any case, something has to be done about court-storming. It's a major safety issue, and we've seen a number of issues this year. I don't really know what the penalty can be outside of a big fine, but this has to be addressed. If Filipowski is seriously injured and out for a length of time, then the NCAA needs to grow a pair and actually do something about it (yes, I know it's the NCAA and the odds of them doing anything are just a bit more than zero).

I'll gladly be called a stick in the mud or a "get off my lawn grandpa" for this. That's fine. I'm also a big fan of safety, and hundreds of students storming the court is not safe.
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OrangeBlue98

Des Moines, IA

Hope the ankle is not bad. Players should be off the court before fans can come on but how can u keep 10000 people off the court.
Arrest and book a few of them. College students don't want a criminal record. I know you can't get all of them, but you can get enough of them to make a statement. Tickets should have a written warning and there should be a PA announcement before the game clearly stating that anyone who is not authorized to be on the court is subject to arrest for entering the court.

I understand this is pretty severe, but I think you have to use this deterrent in the name of safety.
 
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I thought Penn St storming the court for beating #12 was pretty amateurish
Honestly I say assess two technicals to the home team and you at should eliminate the buzzer beater storming. Home courts security has to be ready when the game is in hand and have penalties of revoking tickets. Those are ways if you want to be serious about it
 
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OrangeBlue98

Des Moines, IA
Oh stop it.

Rushing the floor is great and sacred and all parties including losing players and coaches need to take responsibility for maintaining a tradition that makes college sports something that stirs the passions far beyond any other minor league sport on planet earth.
If you have ways to allow that to occur without the safety of those who should actually be on the court being compromised, I'm all ready to hear them. It's just not the safety of the opposing team. What about the home players/staff, officials, and bench personnel who are sitting ducks for hundreds of out of control people creating a wall of humanity?

Bad things can happen when a mass of humanity is out of control. Just Google "Hillsborough disaster" for the most extreme example of what can happen.

I'm as big of a Duke hater as the next person, but we might have seen a kid suffer a serious injury because of an unsafe action. How do you justify an action that can result in something like this?
 
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In a game no one on here cares about but me, Beavers up by 6 over Stanford at half with OSU’s Jordan Pope scoring 17. Interestingly, he’s done most of his damage from 2 (6-8) rather than 3 (1-4). Love his game.
 
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ChiefGritty

Chicago, IL
If you have ways to allow that to occur without the safety of those who should actually be on the court being compromised, I'm all ready to hear them.
These are risks we've accepted for the entire history of the sport.

I don't want to be get-off-my-lawny any more than you do, but the instinct to just throw iconic tradition unique to college sports in the garbage because something unfortunate happened one time so now we need to legalize and regulate and control it into an antiseptic artificial paste utterly horrifies me at a deep level.

May all of life be as loud and messy and beautiful as Tobacco Road basketball games always have been.
 
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I'm fully in support of court storming having taken part in it a couple of different times (albeit on a much smaller scale) when I was at EIU. There is a way to do it and not have it be an issue like what happened today at Wake Forest. If the players aren't able to clear the court before it happens, then whatever security staff the venue has needs to be blocking the opposing players from the home fans so stuff like this doesn't happen. With where the Duke player was this obviously won't be as easy, but it's still something that can be dealt with properly.
 
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OrangeBlue98

Des Moines, IA
Seems defense is a luxury that most teams don’t have this season, minus Houston
Combine Illinois' offense and Houston's defense, and I truly think that team would be close to the "them vs the field" favorite for the national championship.
 
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Just when I think nobody could have a leakier defense than the Illini, UK hangs 117(!) on Bama.
 
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I do understand how unpopular of an opinion it is!

We have a unique thing where we have everyone 6-6 or taller. What I can't wrap my head around is why we're so bad defensively with that kind of length. All great athletes (another thing that's kind of strange is Domask looks pretty dang athletic at times - leaping dunks, agile movements with the ball - but on defense looks like he lacks lateral quickness).

I'm getting way off topic there. Anyway, Domask vs RayJ as primary ballhandlers have identical usage rates but RayJ's 22% turnover rate is astounding (Marcus is at 13%). I get that RayJ would give us some different things/looks, maybe get us into a more traditional style of play, but I'm not anywhere near sold that he automagically gives us 4 more wins.
I love Ty, but I'll take a legit PG with handles, vision, and an outside shoot all day (regardless of height). 6'6 doesn't matter that much when you spend most of your time on the perimeter. Skills over height any day.

We've had a hard time with pressure and we've had a hard time defending quicker guards.
 
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I love Ty, but I'll take a legit PG with handles, vision, and an outside shoot all day (regardless of height). 6'6 doesn't matter that much when you spend most of your time on the perimeter. Skills over height any day.

We've had a hard time with pressure and we've had a hard time defending quicker guards.

You think Ty is still our primary ballhandler/PG? Have you watched a game lately? lol
 
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foby

Bonnaroo Land
This is ridiculous. You hold extremely tight to the company line. See our team struggle to handle against pressure, and your response is, I think the #2 guy on the #2 team in the nation is better than him?

The truth is Dennis is averaging 13.1 ppg, 6.6 apg. 3.8 rpg, 1.4 spg with a 2:1 A:TO ratio while shooting 48.5% from the field, 38.3% from 3, and 71.1% from the stripe.

He would clearly make our team better if we had him. What he does in one individual game is pretty inconsequential to how good he is as a player, and how much he could have improved our team. The fact that Underwood put so much attention, and all of the eggs in the Dennis, basket confirms that the coach thinks he would have made our team better.

To lose a guy we went that hard for and then say ehh he's not that great, is the epitome of homerism taken too far.
Offense is not even close to our problem lately.
 
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He's leading a top 5 offense. His turnover rate is elite. He's averaging 18 ppg in conf play on nearly 50 percent shooting and 88 percent from the FT line.
None of this matters to some of the fanbase. Just because we have the 5th best offense in the nation and the best offense our fanbase has seen in over 30 years, they don't like that we don't have a traditional or shooting PG and think we'd be even more effective and our offense would look prettier if we did. Doesn't matter that our offense isn't the root of the issues we've had. If only we could just score more than 90ppg on average instead of 86ppg all our problems would go away... You always love what you don't have.
 
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