Week of 2/19 Games Thread

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Tons of Purdue fans in Ann Arbor. Sounds like a home game for them.
I’m impressed and bewildered by Purdue’s fan turnout here. It’s a Sunday game, Ann Arbor is over 4 hours away from West Lafayette and there are not a lot of Purdue alumni in Detroit or anything. We need to get back to the days of Illini fans regularly taking over visiting arenas! We still take over Northwestern, but we used to have fans in literally every arena. Check out 38:08 of this video from our 2005 game at Purdue … it truly was Assembly Hall East, and our fans were ROWDY!!

2005 - #1 Illinois at Purdue

Also, I wish Michigan were smart enough to at least make this a game…
 
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Goillinikobd

Southeastern US
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ChiefGritty

Chicago, IL
Um, explain please
There will be other very large players at Purdue next year, and they can go get more in the portal if need be.

Matt Painter, who has finished in the top 4 of the Big Ten 14 times, will get what he needs.

I wouldn't bet on them being this good again next year, but given that Edey might be all they lose, I'd be hesitant to bet against it.

In the Big Ten regular season, I'm not believing Painter, Underwood, or Gard are a non-factor until I see it.

(I only exclude Izzo because them being uncompetitive in the B1G race is kind of a grand tradition from him, even with teams that are still a threat in the tourney)
 
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Those look like Iowa faces.....
Canadian Lol GIF
 
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Goillinikobd

Southeastern US
There will be other very large players at Purdue next year, and they can go get more in the portal if need be.

Matt Painter, who has finished in the top 4 of the Big Ten 14 times, will get what he needs.

I wouldn't bet on them being this good again next year, but given that Edey might be all they lose, I'd be hesitant to bet against it.

In the Big Ten regular season, I'm not believing Painter, Underwood, or Gard.

(I only exclude Izzo because them being uncompetitive in the B1G race is kind of a grand tradition from him, even with teams that are still a threat in the tourney)
So tall guys are a legacy at PU, but but show me the results in April?
 
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Goillinikobd

Southeastern US
Give Michigan credit for a really good effort. If they had played this way all season, they would be mid pack at least
 
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Goillinikobd

Southeastern US
You can of course say the same thing about BU or Gard.

I'm more interested in who rises to the top in the annual B1G x's and o's chess match than the coin flips in the tourney, personally.
And I do say the same about BU, as do many here. My point was that Painter has a fascination with really tall players, but the rest of the basketball world, esp the NBA, has moved on,
 
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ChiefGritty

Chicago, IL
And I do say the same about BU, as do many here. My point was that Painter has a fascination with really tall players, but the rest of the basketball world, esp the NBA, has moved on,
Is your argument that building a team around one big colossus doesn't work in the tournament?

I don't really have an opinion either way, but it's an interesting concept
 
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That win doesn't mean much anymore. Need a win over Wiscy or the Puds
I mean I get your point that we need more of them, but FAU will remain Quad 1 no matter what.

Anyway, if we are even able to win out in the first place, we will need help from either MSU or Wisconsin winning in West Lafayette. Neither seems likely, but frankly neither was Nebrasketball winning in Madison in 2022 to give us the championship!
 
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uofi7477

Silver & Gold Vandals
You make great points, but it's simplistic. I'm in the camp that we're lacking sorely at that specific position. It's taking three guys to hold down that position at the end of games.

1)You mention Domask getting caught in the corner. Who inbounded the ball? Why is a non ball handler getting the ball in the first place? The answer is that he's the best we have and while he's been a great player for us, he shouldn't be in that situation. He's out of position, but in a position of need, his number is called.

2)Why was Coleman even on the line? He shouldn't be handling the ball in the situation. That's just flat bad decision making. You know who should have the ball there.

3)When you have a guy that can handle pressure in the backcourt, teams will hesitate to pressure because he'll make you pay. You're seeing opposing teams game plans unfold and we're going to see that intense pressure from here on out.

4)Our guards, when Domask and Goode are out there, aren't quick enough to cover another teams PG. We can't keep them out of the lane, we get broken down and give up layups. This is not Domask's fault and it's not Goode's fault....they're big guys who can't stay in front of smaller, shiftier guys. Go back, game by game and see how successful we were at containing good guards. Not good.

5)Don't compare Domask to ANY of those guys. He doesn't have the ball in his hands half as much time as those guys do. There isn't one guy in your list that you wouldn't pencil in as one of our starters in an instant. If we had a chance to get a Kolek, you'd jump on it in a heartbeat. C'mon....

6)This situation isn't solely a RayJ thing. Look at what Moretti did today. When he handled the ball, he knew his job, the ball never stuck, the offense ran smoothly and he hit the open shot. I don't care if it's Domask, RayJ, Rodgers, Smith..... whoever. That's what we need to see. Those are winning plays and that's winning basketball. Brad didn't leave him out there for kicks and giggles. He did his job, no Rodgers and no Goode necessary.

Add that to the fact that he fought through ball screens and was active defensively. His biggest issue is when God was handing out the physical gift of basketball genes, he wasn't first in line. Mentally, he's the best that we have at that position and see can see the result.

7)You look at games like Nebraska at home, Northwestern on the road, MSU on the road, PSU on the road....we went 1-3 and the Nebraska win followed a meltdown exactly the same as what happened at PSU. Each of those games had common themes.

1)Wrong guys with the ball late
2)Guards can't stat in front and get broken down
3)Turnovers that lead to
4)Scoring droughts

LIke Beilein stated, it's hero ball. There's nobody controlling the game, the clock, the sets, the ball movement, putting pressure on the other team's defense and handling pressure in the backcourt. Every one of those games felt a part because all of those elements came into play.

There has to be competence, cohesion and consistency at that position. That's a pure fact. Before today, there were constant arguments whether Ty, Goode or Harmon should be out there in crunch to me and the fact is....none of them should be.

Put the RayJ name to the side. Who cares the name. The production and consistency has to be better and if Moretti can be that guy....play him.

In an unequivocal fact that we flat out puked games up. Those were games we should have one and Nebraska should have been a game that our starters were resting in. Instead, we ended up in OT.

I don't give a frogs fat rear if we lead the country in offense for 37 minutes. If you can't close out the last three...it's moot. It's an L.

You're tired of the narrative, which is fair, but losing those games is FAR more annoying than a tired narrative. We're down to four conference games before the win or go home portion of the season starts. Somebody has to step up. If we have a repeat performance....the next conversation that we'll be having is about the portal and the 2024-2025 season.
Thank you.
 
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