A possible’89 reservable! Michigan beats us twice then we beat them in the Final Four and win it all! It’s possible!!!!!
to expand, we are 19-4 when ranked higher and 1-4 when ranked lower. also 4-5 when we are both ranked. to be ranked higher is obviously better but when we're both ranked seems like a coin toss.A fun and somewhat random Bracketology-adjacent exercise ... our record vs. every Big Ten team in the history of the BTT while we were ranked (i.e., removing the years we just sucked anyway, lol).
Indiana
2000 - #21 Illinois 72, #13 Indiana 69 (Chicago, IL)
2001 - Indiana 58, #4 Illinois 56 (Chicago, IL)
2003 - #13 Illinois 73, Indiana 72 (Chicago, IL)
2004 - #12 Illinois 71, Indiana 59 (Indianapolis, IN)
2022 - Indiana 65, #16 Illinois 63 (Indianapolis, IN)
Iowa
2021 - #3 Illinois 82, #5 Iowa 71 (Indianapolis, IN)
2025 - #24 Illinois 106, Iowa 94 (Indianapolis, IN)
Maryland
2025 - #11 Maryland 88, #24 Illinois 65 (Indianapolis, IN)
Michigan
2004 - #12 Illinois 74, Michigan 60 (Indianapolis, IN)
Michigan State
2000 - #5 Michigan State 76, #21 Illinois 61 (Chicago, IL)
2006 - Michigan State 61, #9 Illinois 56 (Indianapolis, IN)
Minnesota
2002 - #10 Illinois 92, Minnesota 76 (Indianapolis, IN)
2005 - #1 Illinois 64, Minnesota 56 (Chicago, IL)
Nebraska
2024 - #13 Illinois 98, Nebraska 87 (Minneapolis, MN)
Northwestern
2003 - #13 Illinois 94, Northwestern 65 (Chicago, IL)
2005 - #1 Illinois 68, Northwestern 51 (Chicago, IL)
Ohio State
2002 - #21 Ohio State 94, #10 Illinois 88 (Indianapolis, IN)
2003 - #13 Illinois 72, Ohio State 59 (Chicago, IL)
2021 - #3 Illinois 91, #9 Ohio State 88 in OT (Indianapolis, IN)
2024 - #13 Illinois 77, Ohio State 74 (Minneapolis, MN)
Penn State
2000 - #21 Illinois 94, Penn State 84 (Chicago, IL)
Purdue
1998 - #9 Purdue 68, #18 Illinois 47 (Chicago, IL)
2001 - #4 Illinois 83, Purdue 66 (Chicago, IL)
Rutgers
2021 - #3 Illinois 90, Rutgers 68 (Indianapolis, IN)
Wisconsin
1998 - #18 Illinois 66, Wisconsin 61 (Chicago, IL)
2004 - #10 Wisconsin 70, #12 Illinois 53 (Indianapolis, IN)
2005 - #1 Illinois 54, #23 Wisconsin 43 (Chicago, IL)
2024 - #13 Illinois 93, Wisconsin 87 (Minneapolis, MN)
Oregon, UCLA, USC and Washington are N/A.
So we are 20-7 in the BTT when we have a team good enough to have a little number next to our names, including being 10-3 in such games at the United Center. When we are ranked #15 or higher, our record is 16-4. Fun fact ... Brad Underwood is 6-0 all-time in the BTT if he has a top 15 team ... let's keep that juju going at our Home Away From Home next weekend!
A staggering statistic!National champs have come from green checks 11 years in a row:
Duke and Arizona are just really hard for me to judge. They often have looked head-and-shoulders better than the competition in a way that even Michigan hasn't, but I think Duke looks scarier as of today. I also think there is a significantly higher possibility that Arizona does something like grind its way to a Big XII Tournament title but then feels the toll of the Big XII gauntlet via a shocking upset (ala the 2021 Illini) compared to Duke cruising through their conference tournament and feeling even more unstoppable than before (ala the 2005 Illini).
I think I'd also take Arizona.
The NCAA website says they separate the top 4 teams from each conference (if they’re seeded #4 or better), but then at the end they say this principle can be relaxed if that conference gets 9 NCAAT bids … so there’s that!Can someone explain to me why I haven't seen Illinois slotted in as the 2 seed in the Chicago bracket? Is it simply that we haven't been the highest 2 seed, so we wouldn't get preference there? I know Michigan is basically locked in as a 1 see, but I don't see any rules that says we can't be the 2 seed with Michigan being the 1 seed, because we wouldn't meet until the elite 8?
If we have a good run in the BTT and the other 2 seeds above us drop, is it possible?
Can someone explain to me why I haven't seen Illinois slotted in as the 2 seed in the Chicago bracket? Is it simply that we haven't been the highest 2 seed, so we wouldn't get preference there? I know Michigan is basically locked in as a 1 see, but I don't see any rules that says we can't be the 2 seed with Michigan being the 1 seed, because we wouldn't meet until the elite 8?
If we have a good run in the BTT and the other 2 seeds above us drop, is it possible?
As a follow-up on this, here is where the top 4 (protected) seeds from each conference were sent in recent years. Keep in mind, it won't always apply, as a conference would have to have 4+ protected seeds for it to matter. I listed every protected seed for context, but it is only the first 4 that should be separated.The NCAA website says they separate the top 4 teams from each conference (if they’re seeded #4 or better), but then at the end they say this principle can be relaxed if that conference gets 9 NCAAT bids … so there’s that!
We don't want to be in Michigan's region anyway.Can someone explain to me why I haven't seen Illinois slotted in as the 2 seed in the Chicago bracket? Is it simply that we haven't been the highest 2 seed, so we wouldn't get preference there? I know Michigan is basically locked in as a 1 see, but I don't see any rules that says we can't be the 2 seed with Michigan being the 1 seed, because we wouldn't meet until the elite 8?
If we have a good run in the BTT and the other 2 seeds above us drop, is it possible?
Yes, what we want is a mirror of 89, where we meet in the Final Four and crush their dream season en route to the national championship.We don't want to be in Michigan's region anyway.
So you'd RATHER be in Arizona's bracket than UConn's? Have you watched college basketball at all this year? (other than Illinois)Give me Arizona's region, don't want anything to do with Duke, Michigan, or UCONN.
Others have generally answered your question, but here are the full details from the NCAA website:Can someone explain to me why I haven't seen Illinois slotted in as the 2 seed in the Chicago bracket? Is it simply that we haven't been the highest 2 seed, so we wouldn't get preference there? I know Michigan is basically locked in as a 1 see, but I don't see any rules that says we can't be the 2 seed with Michigan being the 1 seed, because we wouldn't meet until the elite 8?
If we have a good run in the BTT and the other 2 seeds above us drop, is it possible?
Uconn/Florida then ArizonaSo you'd rather be in Arizona's bracket than UConn's? Have you watched college basketball at all this year? (other than Illinois)
Just do not understand the logic.
I have watched a ton of college basketball this year, yes, just personal preference. We got creamed by UCONN this year, I guess YOU didn't watch that game. Hurley seems to have had the upper hand on the coaching side against us. I am talking about specifically playing one of the 4 top seeds, I just don't want us playing UCONN not the specific teams in the region so far.So you'd RATHER be in Arizona's bracket than UConn's? Have you watched college basketball at all this year? (other than Illinois)
Just do not understand the logic.
Well we'd have to drop to the 3 seed line for this to happen. The Purdue game next Friday is basically a 2 seed sweepstakes with a 3 seed consolation prize.Uconn/Florida then Arizona
And needless to say, they will not be able to accommodate all of these guiding principles every year; if you are hellbent on getting the top 4 Big Ten and Big XII teams in different locations and you want to avoid rematches, you might "accidentally" put a team in a location where they face a crowd disadvantage ... like #3 Kentucky playing #6 Illinois in Milwaukee in front of a crowd that had at least twice as many Illini fans last year.Others have generally answered your question, but here are the full details from the NCAA website:
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It doesn't matter whose bracket we are in; from a 1-seed standpoint, we are not beating any of the 1 seeds this year. We will be lucky to make it to the second weekend.Uconn/Florida then Arizona
Have you watched Dan Hurley vs Brad Underwood?So you'd RATHER be in Arizona's bracket than UConn's? Have you watched college basketball at all this year? (other than Illinois)
Just do not understand the logic.