Week of 3/2 Bracketology
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Illinicpa14
- Chicago
We should - probably above both ISU and Purdue right now and just need to stay over 1 of them.
Yet Miami OH is unbeaten in their conference but Akron is not.
And Steve Smith’s bracket - 5 seed
Lunardi has us in okc
He never has much good to say about usAnd Steve Smith’s bracket - 5 seed
Iowa St is a solid 3 and the only way they move up to a 2 is by getting to the B12 final and win.
He has Houston in St Louis. Don't see why they'd switch the two? Heck, from a pure revenue perspective, Illinois in St. Louis and Houston in OKC is the money maker. Not sure what Joe is thinking there.
Illinicpa14
- Chicago
That was a mistake from the hack job of ESPN; fixed now.
He basically had flipped the regions for Houston and Illinois and didn’t flip the sights (had Houston in St Louis which made no sense; they’ll want OKC that’s a drive)
Smith was saying Illinois was anywhere from a 3 to a 5 seed in the B1G tourney, which was true. He said "tournament" but was clearly talking about next week's conference tournament.And Steve Smith’s bracket - 5 seed
I think it’s almost better to get the 4 seed in the BTT and play Michigan on Saturday instead of MSU
If we lose to Wisconsin it won’t matter but I’d much rather get Michigan in the semi’s - we either get a big win that will help our seeding or take a loss that won’t hurt us and get an extra day of rest for the NCAA’s
Playing MSU on Saturday is a no win game for us- we’re already ahead of them so it can only hurt us if we lose to them and if we win we have the play the extra game Sunday that won’t impact our seeding
If we lose to Wisconsin it won’t matter but I’d much rather get Michigan in the semi’s - we either get a big win that will help our seeding or take a loss that won’t hurt us and get an extra day of rest for the NCAA’s
Playing MSU on Saturday is a no win game for us- we’re already ahead of them so it can only hurt us if we lose to them and if we win we have the play the extra game Sunday that won’t impact our seeding
Yeah, it made no sense otherwise. It would have to be a crazy set of events for us not being there. Purdue AND Iowa State would have to win some big time games.
DeonThomas
- South Carolina
Serious question for you.
Can you outline the Selection Committee's thought process in slotting/assigning the top 8 seeds? Outline that process team-by-team for me, if you can. I'm seriously interested in how they might think through the placement of those 8 teams.....while adhering to all of the "seeding rules." (Secondary question --- is Houston allowed to play in Houston if they win their first two games?)
I believe they can because it's hosted by Rice University.
DeonThomas
- South Carolina
As a #1 seed, can MICH be assigned to St. Louis for their first two games?
PizzaHutParkingLot
- Vodice, Croatia
I think I read somewhere that Philly is their preferred location for the R64/32
DeonThomas
- South Carolina
I read that (on here) as well.
So we seem to have a number of options. (A) Lunardi has MICH playing in Buffalo; (B) they appear to want to play in Philly; and, (C) STL would make sense from a Midwestern geography perspective.
That's why I'm interested in seeing/hearing the Selection Committee's "seeding rules". What logic will they be following to place the #1 and #2 seeds........?
The committee only lets the number 1 overall seed "choose" where they play their first two games. Michigan came out and said if they are the number 1 overall seed, they will choose to be in Philadelphia. Right now, they are not the number 1 overall seed, so it goes based on mileage. That's why they will be in Buffalo and not Philly most likely.
Illinicpa14
- Chicago
Houston was able to pass off “hosting” to Rice; so they can play in Houston.
All the top teams submit preference of their 1st round sites (all else equal its closest by mileage but Michigan for example said publicly theyd rather play in Philly then Buffalo).
Then they just go down the S-curve from #1 to #16; so your way to look at St Louis is what other Midwest based teams are up for a top seed that may want that region. St Louis is the closest site for us, Purdue, And Iowa state (and maybe Nebraska or Kansas?). So to get that region, we need to be 1st or 2nd on that list.
Note this is different then what region you end up in for the 2nd weekend. You don’t get preferences for that as a 2-4 seed; you just end up where your placed based on S-curve, adjusted for some one-off rules (like same conference top seeds can’t be in the same region unless you have >4 of them).
Only the #1 overall seed can choose their pod/region. After that, it typically goes by closest geographical option. Lunardi has Duke #1 overall, so Michigan's preference of Philly is meaningless and they get Buffalo.
DeonThomas
- South Carolina
Thanks. And I do agree with everything you said.
But what if no other #1 seeds want STL. Can MICH still ask for St. Louis rather than Philly? (I ask because I'm assuming that all 8 opening venues are up for grabs --- and the Committee will use them strategically to get teams placed appropriately.)
Buffalo would be geographically closer to Ann Arbor.
Illinicpa14
- Chicago
Just to he clear though, that S curve after #1 overall is basically just geography that’s forced from the committee. You get the same players though listed were competing with.
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