Fighter of the Nightman
- Chicago, IL
Wisconsin 69, Illinois 60 POSTGAME
Any way you can cast a negative light to move JG out, right?
1 in the first I think
The bigger story was great execution by Wisconsin. During their massive second half run, there wasn't a bad offensive possession in the bunch.
If Alvarez is too big and important to keep Gard....I'm just saying.
If Alvarez is too big and important to keep Gard....I'm just saying.
I'm right there with you.
Don't think you're crazy, but I like the opp approach of encouraging the players to play through the bad reffing, since there's not a damn thing can be done about it.
33 points in 7 minutes...that's a scoring pace per minute above the NBA all star game (196 points) . Ridiculous....good D in the first half though.Groce sasys Illinois gave up 36 pts in first 33 minutes, 33 pts in last 7minutes.
Notice the Groce-Gard handshake exchange. Frigid would understate it.
JG should have drawn a T to send the refs a message and fire up his team. Even LouDo did this every now and then, and it almost always worked to UI's favor. That reffing was atrocious.
Taking a T to try and sway officiating has been around since the beginning of time.
Our players are going to remember the injuries, negative publicity, and screwjobs from officials this season for a long time. If we stay healthy, we're going to have a very good team next year. These guys are going to come out with a chip on their shoulders fighting to shut up all the critics and save Groce's job. I have a feeling we're all going to be in for a very exciting ride next year.
No, absolutely not. I actually love Groce and want to see him succeed. He had a great game plan that game, and the team executed it awesomely. But I firmly believe Big 10 basketball is too influenced by the refs. And in that particular game we were definitely the beneficiaries of their whistles. Refs do effect the outcomes of games. They do have the ability to set momentum.
Stevegarbs
- Mokena, IL
No excuse to blow a 13-point lead. None.
It's because of Bo Bryan. Bo treated JG like a grad assistant in JG's first trip to Madison in 2013.
Thought he sat with two in the 1st?
Funny you should say that. I was just texting with a Wisky buddy of mine and said that almost word for word...
ivwilsoniv
- Aurora, IL
What lost the game was allowing a 22-2 run when Illinois was up 46-33. I know the foul differential and officiating was obviously one-sided, but you can't give up a -20 run by the other team at any point and expect to win a game.
Side note: Wisconsin has won 10 straight games against Illinois. I wonder what Groce's record is against each B1G team...
Side note: Wisconsin has won 10 straight games against Illinois. I wonder what Groce's record is against each B1G team...
illinoisfan11
- Peoria, IL
The drought started before the barrage of bad calls. Started settling for bad, early shots. Never tried to get the ball inside and the work it back out. On the defensive end, we got caught on bad switches and let them start working inside out. We shut that down in the first half pretty well. We let them get the ball into the post at will during their run. Then there was just way too much one-on-one, which led to bad turnovers. It's basically the same thing on the offensive end that's led to every scoring drought this season.
I don't mean as an assistant.
Yeah, remember that pic of Ryan and Groce in the tunnel from back then. Didn't look like they were exchanging pleasantries.
Neither did I
I remain a JG fan and believe he is the right man for the job (unless the grand slam Joe Maddon hire is out there, which he is not).
Totally unbiased viewpoint was given tonight from Crispin, this is a Top 25 team next year when healthy.
I would hate to see Whitman fire him this year without an incredible hire already in place, only to be able to come in and win next year with JG players but have to start the recruiting process over, not to mention with a loaded '17 class that everyone seems to think we sit very well with.
Totally unbiased viewpoint was given tonight from Crispin, this is a Top 25 team next year when healthy.
I would hate to see Whitman fire him this year without an incredible hire already in place, only to be able to come in and win next year with JG players but have to start the recruiting process over, not to mention with a loaded '17 class that everyone seems to think we sit very well with.
Chris Yates
Recruiting Correspondent
- Michigan
Bo Ryan was one of the most abrasive, insufferable jerks in Big Ten history and everyone knew it. I'm amazed that he's now remembered by some as an avuncular teacher of young men. He was a first-class azz-clown.
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I somewhat disagree. There was a huge momentum swing caused by the refs. We freaked out and missed shots