Wisconsin 91, Illinois 88 OT Postgame

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DJM
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#428      
Big Jack
Absolutely piss poor coaching period. I am done and over being a die hard apologist for BU. If I was the coach I would have been in the locker room by the end of the game. The refs were as horrible as Brad's coaching was and I would have gotten tossed sticking up for my team. Time for Brad to move on, how do you squander 2 15 point leads.
 
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RockfordIllini
Fighter of the Nightman said:
We use this strategy based on ~metrics~ to get a lead, and then ... what? We bank on continuing to make the exact same kind of shots for the rest of the game to, like, double the lead? Well, sometimes that will work like vs. Missouri and USC. But when the other team starts making its run, you can't just keep playing exactly like you were when they weren't making their run, lol. You have to clamp down.

People have been ridiculed for saying this for the past two seasons, but this is the problem when your strategy to win a basketball game rarely is ever more complex than "shoot well, score points, try to have other team score fewer points." We aren't just going to execute offensively at the exact same clip every game, let alone throughout the entirety of a single game. It's easy to mock posters for complaining about a "lack of adjustments" because it's vague, but we all intuitively know it when we see it when a great coach notices a small opening to gain an advantage. It's not like Brad is incapable of doing that, but he just seems intent on us performing in such a way where the other team just can't beat us ... and we aren't always going to perform that way. And when we don't, we have to be quick on our feet.

We are playing with fire in the NCAA Tournament. We very well might play amazingly and get hot and go on a deep run ... but I have almost no faith that we will grind out a win on an off day. And those aren't great odds come March Madness, because you'll have an off day eventually.
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Another nit is timeout usage.

We had a 15 point lead in the first have and gave it up primarily through poor shot selection during an extended run of game action when both teams were gassed. I think we passed both the under 12 and under 8 before there was a break. Now the flip side is Wisconsin was gassed too. But we’ve got the lead! Take your use it or lose it, take a breath and recombobulate the team and get back to shooting good shots.

And then we had another 15 point lead with 10 minutes to go in second half and gave up a 9-0 run in about 90 seconds. I get wanting to save your timeouts for late game, but protect the ****ed lead! Call a timeout and break their run.

Also, seems like we rarely draw anything up anyway in the closing minutes. We usually just get into one of our actions. Brad can do that from the sidelines if we don’t have the timeouts.

We had a 93% win expectancy in the last 12 minutes.
 
#432      
EmeraldCityIllini
I am not calling for his firing. But just because our performance in the post-season before Underwood was so abysmal, does not make his performance in the post-season to date acceptable.
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I guess I just got hung up on "unacceptable". If someones results are unacceptable i just associate with making a change.

Which idk. Maybe is the answer. open to ideas haha
 
#436      
Sfb153
February 28th: “This current Illini team has NO street-ball toughness... The Illini are trying to Euro-Their-Way to a National Title and that ain’t gonna happen. The Euro game is fine but inherently soft. Without street-ball toughness this reveals an Illini weakness. You cannot just finesse your way to a Final Four. This is not a dance competition... The Illini are sliding at a time when they need momentum into the Tournaments.”
– Roundball Sage

Today:

It seems the Fighting Illini (and Coaching staff) all have Headaches... NOT from the loss today but from all this hitting their heads UP AGAINST the Glass Ceiling that keeps them from joining the Upper Elite (year after year).

Can anybody find some Ball Toughness? Or is it like they say... "You Are What You Are".
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Your right we have a 7 footer who thinks he is a point guard we let the wrong big man go
 
#438      
WyattEarp
BatteredWifeSchwartz said:
Think it would be good for some of you to log off Loyalty for the week.

Vibes are low but man some of the things I’m seeing here are ridiculous. We got jobbed. No question about it.
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Thanks for the public service announcement…

Like what?( Except For The Fire Brad Crap…) What has been said that is so beyond the pale? What has been said that you find so offensive?

So Getting Jobbed Is Your Only Takeaway Here? I Dont Disagree.
But are you implying the refs are responsible for us squandering two 15+ point leads? Because the refs shouldn’t have even been in the position to job us if we took care of business.
 
#439      
Sim
Furthermore, there is nothing in the offensive arsenal to run something that frees up a player in the posat via the pass.
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I think that is how they’re coached. Obviously they’re coached to throw it back out but these guys have the size and at least some ability so coach them to be tough and take it up and rebound tough.
 
#440      
FloridaMan
Haven't heard the post game yet, but I'm guessing multiple guys lost weight this week or something. Only thing I can figure.
 
#442      
Goillinikobd
I’ll be drowning my sorrows in the West Loop so of you find me I’ll buy you a pop
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I will leave the couch for nothing less than a vodka tonic, double tall with a lime
 
#444      
EmeraldCityIllini
Goillinikobd said:
Question
In the first seconds, our best guard goes Mano a Mano against their best guard and WINS the encounter
Both get technicals for jawing
We bench our guy and their guy lights us up for 30+
Which coach won that battle?
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we benched our guy because he got his second foul though.

And, i'm not in favor of "auto-benching" in the first half with 2 fouls, which brad sometimes does. but if you pick up 2 fouls in the first 50 seconds, you're gonna sit. That's ironclad
 
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#447      
Julie Meinart
I think Kylan thought he did. Turns out it was only 1 play and then he got his own !!! taken out. Boyd is really good. There was zero reason to do that today. I hated to see him and his self adulation, but we set him up for that. I’m still looking for slow foot Tomi. You seen him?
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Boyd only did good because we did not play effectively. Bigs Should not be on the perimeter. Keaton needs rest sometimes because he is playing the way upperclassmen should be. Boyd is good but we were forced to play catch up. Should not have been. I hope Keaton stays. Not sure what to say about Brad.
 
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azillini1
One of my big frustrations is that Wagler, as great as he has been & I can't imagine how bad this team would be without him, has a tendency to take some really dumb shots at key moments of the game. Today it was a 23 ft contested 3 right when WI was reclaiming momentum. In those moments you need a bucket to stem the tide and keep the lead at 10-12 pts. Instead, we miss a few 3s, they get on a run, and then we don't have the toughness to win a tight one.
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I wish he would stay another year to build strength. But…
 
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