Wisconsin 91, Illinois 88 OT Postgame

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#576      
Well boys it's a new dawn. Everybody going into the tunamint is 0-0. Best we can hope for.
 
#577      
I said it a month ago … we do not have a closer. Wagler is a lottery pick, love him, but he hasn’t shown an ability to hit big shots late. Wisconsin has TWO closers. We played two OT games against, let them stay close, and their closers closed both games.
 
#579      
Think it would be good for some of you to log off Loyalty for the week.

Vibes are low but man some of the things I’m seeing here are ridiculous. We got jobbed. No question about it.
When you are up 15 points (TWICE) and still lose...no, you didn't get jobbed. You choked.
 
#581      
I, mean, honestly? Not really lol
I mean, it really should be. This is year nine, and Brad is making in excess of $5M a year with a, what, $7-8M annual NIL expenditure? Top half of the B10 NIL and top 2 amongst league coaches salaries. Fourth place league finishes and first weekend exits are not the return the program should expect. That is the reality of this business. That's a lot of sunk cost for one elite 8.

I'm not arguing for his ouster at all after this season. But to dismiss the question would be foolish. I'm pretty certain there will be some rumblings amongst the larger donors if that were to happen. Again, reality.
 
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#583      
We make a REASONABLE amount of free throws, you win. At the end of regulation, Wisconsin was 19 of 20. We were 8 of 14, missing how many front ends? That's concentration. We lost at the line. Period.

P.s.....Brad's not going anywhere and we all know it, so cut it off right there. That said, his roster building and Euro ball philosophy has to change unless we are unable to fund for elite guards. We have no foot speed advantage or athleticism advantage anywhere on the floor. That's a personnel issue.
Up 15 a couple of times. UCLA not a good enough wake up call? No matter his roster, its the same bs. Lots of upset donors
 
#585      
Question
In the first seconds, our best guard goes Mano a Mano against their best guard and WINS the encounter
Both get technicals for jawing
We bench our guy and their guy lights us up for 30+
Which coach won that battle?
To be fair Boswell got a near non-existent call against him the next possession. He had to sit with 2 fouls.
 
#586      
I am with you. I am ready for some old school toughness. Jerry Sloan would have sent that a$$hat to the bench with a broken nose and face full of blood at about the 4 minute mark, and no foul called on Sloan. Rip thru with the ball on offense, ball to Boyds face on the way.
absolutely. Kylan was the D we were missing in the first matchup, now 30 seconds in he has to play scared the rest of the half or until you get your second. If you're going to do that crap, your bench is right next to you, flex to them or maybe waive your arms to get your fans going crazy, like the other dude?
 
#587      
Second weekend or bust, the pressure is on.
I respect your opinion, and genuinely wonder from whom would the pressure be on? The fan base, the donor (meaning big donor) class or with Josh Whitman? As much as I wish it were different, if it's only the first of those I don't think that moves the needle for another few seasons of disappointment.
 
#589      
It’s because our”top rated offense” philosophy is to have our bigs play away from the basket. That might not be so bad if we had guards who could score consistently down low.
This.

At 1:59 left in regulation, Tomi posted uo, we threw it in to him and he made an easy shot.

We are using these guys wrong. So frustrating. So stubborn and or unable to adapt.

If a team goes on a run, best way to stop it is to get an easy shot. Like the one I just described.

But we choose to continue to take threes or drive 1 into a congested lane.
 
#590      
With our lack of foot speed and quickness across the board, ANY team posing dual threats is going to beat us. We can point to quick guards destroying us multiple times. The personnel, defensively, just isn't there.
This is the issue with going with size. Size speed and athleticism is a rarity. There are plenty of quick short guards who can shoot dribble and penetrate.
 
#591      
This team looks emotionally drained, they look completely defeated. Similar to last years team. Zero fire. Why should anyone believe they will do anything different in the tourney?? Every single interview, nobody seems to show any life. Keaton looks completely checked out, not sure what happened to him.
Season is too long and too demanding for some of our players. (The Euro ones for sure). The team does not play with any urgency or fire, they play like they have checked out. Tyler Underwood may be an offensive wizard, but he has no clue how to change strategy when things are not working. Thought we brought in a defensive savant to take over that side from Hamer, has he checked out too? Or possibly never checked in.

Don't see the Euro guys changing from their Euro style to being junk-yard defenders no matter who the coach might be. Tomi will never become a Morez Johnson type. The $$$$ spent for this team may not gotten anything "elite" like we were hoping for or told we could expect. Too many pretenders when the going got rough.
 
#592      
would we be lucky to even get past the first round?seriously asking?
137 out of 160 3seeds all time have gotten past the first round. Fairly simple logic that achieving something with a 85.6% likelihood shouldn’t require the “would be lucky” lead in?
 
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#593      
There is an actual basketball reason we aren't elite anymore, Tomi and Andrej being guys the defense can sag off now makes us defendable both on a game-long and individual possession basis, which allows teams to go on runs against us. When we had knockdown shooters 1-5 that was impossible.
And we only have two decent guards (when they are playing well) and one of them has a broken hand, the other is a freshman. When both are in foul trouble that's a major problem. The miss with Petro is really hurting this team. One more decent guard would have made a huge difference in this team. D1 ball is a guard's game after all.
 
#594      
With our lack of foot speed and quickness across the board, ANY team posing dual threats is going to beat us. We can point to quick guards destroying us multiple times. The personnel, defensively, just isn't there.
I didn’t get to see the game but if their guards drove at will against our man-to-man defense like Michigan, why in the world won’t BU go to a flippin’ zone? That zone seemed pretty dang effective to me when we used it when Boswell was out.
 
#597      
12 seasons prior to Brad:

2006 — second round
2007 — first round
2008 — missed tournament
2009 — first round (upset by Western Kentucky)
2010 — missed tournament
2011 — second round
2012 — missed tournament
2013 — second round
2014 — missed tournament
2015 — missed tournament
2016 — missed tournament
2017 — missed tournament
This is not relevant when you consider what we are paying Brad and how we are investing in the program.
 
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We make a REASONABLE amount of free throws, you win. At the end of regulation, Wisconsin was 19 of 20. We were 8 of 14, missing how many front ends? That's concentration. We lost at the line. Period.

P.s.....Brad's not going anywhere and we all know it, so cut it off right there. That said, his roster building and Euro ball philosophy has to change unless we are unable to fund for elite guards. We have no foot speed advantage or athleticism advantage anywhere on the floor. That's a personnel issue.
FT's were terrible, I agree, but it was more than just FT's that lost this game. They had 2 15 point leads they couldn't hold today and other big leads throughout the year, so it goes much deeper than just FT's.
 
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