Wisconsin 92, Illinois 90 OT Postgame

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Rebounding Dog
HouTexIllini said:
We don’t stop the ball in transition and that may not all be fast breaks. And on “fast breaks” it also has a lot to with the opponent’s ability to run a fast break. Some do it well and some don’t, but I guess we should get credit either way.

Watch the Michigan State game, “fast break” defense was bad, but also just stopping the ball when the other pg pushes it after makes, misses, and turnovers. That’s not fast break and maybe it technically isn’t transition either. Hoiberg, Fears, Blackwell, the other Wisconsin guy, Minnesota, there is a lot of pointing at who to pick up the ball and then there isn’t any at all.
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We send guys to the glass and will compromise some transition D. Live or die by it.
I think fatigue was an issue in the last two games and it showed up in a few spots… certainly transition D. Which does beg for the question… why have Petro and Lee riding the pine?
There were games where we were way out in front and some starters could have seen rest.
 
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doowink
pruman91 said:
those gave me bad vibes from long ago.......They sucked just as bad as the current inept mo' fo's do.........they really really did....
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Out of that group TV Ted was head and shoulders above the rest as being the worst....not saying the others were good.....I knew Ed Hightower....he could be good or he could be bad....TV Ted was just bad all the time...
 
#830      
NarrowJ
This level of microscopic criticism of fast break defense (which has been well above average all season) during a stretch where our best defensive player has not even played really gives 1st world problems.

Fast break points allowed:
Before Kylan injury: 8.0 which is really good
After Kylan injury: 11.6 still not “bad”
 
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HouTexIllini
Rebounding Dog said:
We send guys to the glass and will compromise some transition D. Live or die by it.
I think fatigue was an issue in the last two games and it showed up in a few spots… certainly transition D. Which does beg for the question… why have Petro and Lee riding the pine?
There were games where we were way out in front and some starters could have seen rest.
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Your name checks out appropriately for this convo.
 
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AirTran
NarrowJ said:
This level of microscopic criticism of fast break defense (which has been well above average all season) during a stretch where our best defensive player has not even played really gives 1st world problems.

Fast break points allowed:
Before Kylan injury: 8.0 which is really good
After Kylan injury: 11.6 still not “bad”
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NarrowJ said:
This level of microscopic criticism of fast break defense (which has been well above average all season) during a stretch where our best defensive player has not even played really gives 1st world problems.

Fast break points allowed:
Before Kylan injury: 8.0 which is really good
After Kylan injury: 11.6 still not “bad”
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When you send 5 people to the glass for offensive rebounds you are going to allow fast break points. We still have one of the top FG% defenses. That's not a weakness in the scheme, its using the players skills to get the best result. I may be a bit old, but I think that is also known as "coaching."
 
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NarrowJ
AirTran said:
When you send 5 people to the glass for offensive rebounds you are going to allow fast break points. We still have one of the top FG% defenses. That's not a weakness in the scheme, its using the players skills to get the best result. I may be a bit old, but I think that is also known as "coaching."
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This works the opposite way lol its major reason why we’ve not allowed many fast break points all season. We send 4 guys to the glass and the defense has to match that or get eaten alive via offensive rebs. Defense doesn’t have guys leaking out because they have to box out.
 
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ejam21
HouTexIllini said:
We don’t stop the ball in transition and that may not all be fast breaks. And on “fast breaks” it also has a lot to with the opponent’s ability to run a fast break. Some do it well and some don’t, but I guess we should get credit either way.

Watch the Michigan State game, “fast break” defense was bad, but also just stopping the ball when the other pg pushes it after makes, misses, and turnovers. That’s not fast break and maybe it technically isn’t transition either. Hoiberg, Fears, Blackwell, the other Wisconsin guy, Minnesota, there is a lot of pointing at who to pick up the ball and then there isn’t any at all.
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Yeah Michigan state was an outlier
The worst of the year by far and not indicative of the normal effectiveness
 
#836      
AirTran
NarrowJ said:
This works the opposite way lol its major reason why we’ve not allowed many fast break points all season. We send 4 guys to the glass and the defense has to match that or get eaten alive via offensive rebs. Defense doesn’t have guys leaking out because they have to box out.
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Good points One other addition - if we get 15 offensive rebounds, there are fewer transition opportinuties to defend.
 
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