Wisconsin 95, Illinois 74 Postgame

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The difference is that Gard is a really good basketball coach with a great experienced staff. Wisconsin does not lose because they get out coached or schemed. That argument can not be made for Brad and his staff or quite frankly his schemes and philosophies. I think they have changed every single year. Gard has shown consistency over his tenure and Brad has not.
 
#280      
Irrelevant why he's no longer there, it still works fine, look at Duke with 3 freshman leading the way and a 4th as 6th man

Spell it out for me, ok buddy
Rutgers has two freshmen who will be drafted higher than KJ, and that team is god-awful.

Cooper Flagg is a generational talent, and is supported by four other likely draftees. Two of which are upperclassmen. Not just good seniors, but likely second rounders.
 
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Example: How do you think AJ Johnson got drafted ahead of TJ ??
No idea I don't follow the NBA in the least, only my 2 schools UIUC and Southern Miss

But I would have guessed that NBA management would not care what an agent has to say because they are salesmen whose only job is to sell their players and negotiate their eventual contracts.
 
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#282      
I remember that, last year, when I said I thought Greg Gard is in fact a good basketball coach. I was over-ruled on that, here. :)
 
#283      
A question that needs to be asked at this point, where are the big donors at? When your employees are paid by someone else, you are beholden to them. We're going to have a lot of turnover, because people are not happy. I think 2 out of 3 years being not great is enough proof for me, you're not going to win big with heavy roster turnover. So, we're already screwed next year, to a degree.

But to try to have a big season next year, we're going to need players, and a lot of them. I'm guessing KJ, Riley, White, DGL, Humrichous, Booth, and Rodgers are gone. To bring in 7 guys, or more, is going to take money. Are our benefactors going to be willing to pony up that cash based on what we've seen this year? To me, Underwood made some bad player evals and has been a pretty bad bench coach this season. Do people want to throw good money after bad?
 
#284      
Irrelevant why he's no longer there, it still works fine, look at Duke with 3 freshman leading the way

Spell it out for me, ok buddy
High risk high reward, or at least it seems that way with so many good coaches faltering this season. Curious how the analytics guys going to take into account the impact of NIL. You pay over a mil and might get an AJ Storr as a complete bust, or Hawkins who has so many good qualities but on paper will never be worth the value, or you roll the dice with international guys or freshmen with an unknown learning curve. If you don’t get any of those three, you’re left with what? Developing players that flew under the radar, project players that you may hang on to for a couple of years, or you get lucky. We can pretend there’s an easy solution but these are uncharted waters in this era.
 
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#285      
In some cases ... Yes - that is exactly what I'm saying ...

Rich Paul has MAJOR influence over who many teams select ...

LeBron got his own kid drafted for crying out loud ...

GMs and Execs listen to all sorts of people ... And if they want a better chance at FA let's say ... They can be more inclined to draft someone higher than they should probably go ...

Example: How do you think AJ Johnson got drafted ahead of TJ ??
Can't blame the coach for him only taking 3 shots. That is a KJ problem/issue
 
#286      
The problem I have is this year we have seem to gone away from culture guys, and gone for the glitz and glam. We have too much glitz and glam and not enough Nasty. DGL, Trent, Damonte, Ty, etc…. Program guys, winners. Even Harmon and Quincy were winners and knew their roles. Lot of guys on this team just try to get theirs
 
#287      
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Here's us limping into the tournament
 
#288      
Don't get me wrong, this team is playing like 💩 right now. If you've been a fan long enough, you're already groomed for disappointment like this. It's just so much harder when we have a "likely" lottery pick freshman...among another freshman first rounder. The season isn't over yet...but...this may be the most disappointing season that I've witnessed in my 26 years of fandom :(. I'll never give up on the Illini, and will continue to watch every game, but this is getting ridiculous
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#289      
Rutgers has two freshmen who will be drafted higher than KJ, and that team is god-awful.

Cooper Flagg is a generational talent, and is supported by four other likely draftees. Two of which are upperclassmen. Not just good seniors, but likely second rounders.

Don't disagree with any of that outside of Flagg as generational talent. Have thought a good comp for him is Andrei Kirilenko. Amazing athlete and defensive player but doesn't have the full package on offense to be a featured player in the league.

As for Rutgers, and like you said yourself, you've got to surround them with something. Rutgers is Ace, Harper and a bunch of scrubs.
 
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If you instead say "wow, way to be tough and fight through it," then you're probably infecting a new person every few days and you have a wave of illness run through the team.
Not "you" - rather the teams doctors/trainers (I assume there is more than one or two) make this recommendation and if Brad is ignoring their advice then he needs to get the Beckman treatment, IMO.
 
#294      
No practice, oxygen tents, Hyperbolic chambers, I'V antibiotics, etc. Watch tape, but secluded therepy for crying out loud. Kj, No Tape. Temple head massages.
 
#296      
If it's influenza, as was reported a few weeks ago when DGL (I think it was him) played through it, then we as a society know a lot about how it spreads and how to help avoid it. It is spread by respiratory droplets in close contact with others. The sort of things a person generates when they run and breath hard. So if you say "hey, man, why don't you sit out a few days and come back when your fever is gone," then you stop that person from infecting his teammates.

And for young, healthy people, flu tends to knock you down for 2-5 days and then they can rejoin polite society.

If you instead say "wow, way to be tough and fight through it," then you're probably infecting a new person every few days and you have a wave of illness run through the team.
I don’t disagree with this but with how bad of a flu season this has been I think it is more than likely it would have hit guys regardless with all the travel they have to do. I guarantee they have played against guys on other teams fighting through illness too. This isn’t the only team dealing with this. We are just hyper focused on our guys availability.
 
#297      
Yeah, it makes sense for Jake, but not the rest of the team who have allegedly been sick for 1.5 months.
Yeah but that assumes they've been sick with the same thing the whole time. Unfortunately sometimes these things stack on top of each other. Earlier this winter my kid had strep. Before he was done with his course of antibiotics his fever came back so we took him in again and this time he tested positive for the flu.

That's not an excuse for the team's play of course, just saying I don't think you can necessarily draw a straight line between whatever sickness was going around a month ago, and what's happening now.
 
#299      
Don’t think all of the recruits aren’t going to think this and other coaches selling against us!
 
#300      
The disappointment in 12 & 13 was worse. Scheelyboi led us to 2 straight bowl games, only for *us* to 💩 the bed the next 2 years...
 
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